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Old 10-17-2007, 12:49 AM
Cap_Of_Water Cap_Of_Water is offline
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Default Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

villian is 21/16/3
Not really any history except i think he percieves me as aggro postflop.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (UTG): $284.95
CO: $201.05
BTN: $298.35
SB: $252
BB: $199

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $6

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12

Turn: ($41) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, BB calls $32

River: ($105) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $76</font>
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

why?

I take the free showdown
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

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to fold out two pair/sets/random diamonds he might have like 99 w/ a diamond. I dunno how believable the line is tho. u can only have AxQd or Qdxx that double barreled which is possible. I think I check the turn a decent amount fwiw.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:00 AM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default Re: Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

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why?

I take the free showdown

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to fold out two pair/sets

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I have a set/2 pair 0% of the time here.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

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anything that can really call the river c/raises the flop or c/r the turn, and a few better hands fold.

Not assuming its right tho, so posted it, getting thoughts.. etc.
thx
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:08 AM
Cap_Of_Water Cap_Of_Water is offline
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Default Re: Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

scratch that, to make it more clear, what i mean is, every flush that calls the river raises the flop a huge % of the time since its always a combo draw...random smaller flushes and random hands that have me beat sometimes, fold. The only hand i see that calls is AQd/AJd but i think thats like never?
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

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why?

I take the free showdown

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to fold out two pair/sets

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I have a set/2 pair 0% of the time here.

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i assume ur raising earlier? I really have no idea how u play and obviously u kno better than I do. wtf do u have here then a weak overpair that thought the A was a good bluff card for villian? maybe a turned Q hi flush? If ur raising two pair/set earlier I would think you'd raise a flush on the turn unless it was the nut flush which you couldn't have had. I guess check back and hope he has JJ/TT.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

your line looks so bluffy its actually a thin Vbet.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

when he checks the river u are either WA/WB ...just check it down, its almost always a mistake to turn a made hand into a bluff.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into bluff on river 4 flush vs southern

betting here seems rly spewy. people are never folding a single diamond here on the lone rationale that they didnt get this far to FOLD A FLUSH
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