TP2K, pot control vs protection

[danny8]

Cryptologic - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $44.35
BB: $9.00
Hero (UTG): $50.00
MP: $57.15
CO: $49.25
BTN: $65.75

Reads: <font color="blue">MP is fairly tight, i cant see him cold 3betting the flop with anything less than a set. If he calls im fairly sure im beat.

SB seems pretty loose in the 15 or so hands ive been with him, limps a lot, calls raises, generally loose/passive</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, MP calls $2.00, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($6.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, MP folds, SB calls $5.00

Turn: ($18.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, SB calls $12.00

River: ($42.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

is this ok to be playing KJ like this? i know im building quite alarge pot with a very marginal hand, but i dont wanna give freecards to draws.

[Lego05]

This looks good to me.

[Romanis]

Preflop I'd fold KJo UTG, might play it if it was suited.
Mindonk on a board like that screams draw. I'd play it exactely the same (maybe bet a bit more on the turn).

[relativity_x]

Pitch the hand PF.

Villain is obviously on a draw. I'd bet around 10 on the river and call a push.

[Lego05]

Yea....fold this hand pre-flop from UTG. But post-flop looks good to me.

[Lego05]

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Villain is obviously on a draw. I'd bet around 10 on the river and call a push.

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Why? A missed draw isn't gonna call a bet. And you think he's gonna check raise bluff you on the river?

[relativity_x]

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Why? A missed draw isn't gonna call a bet. And you think he's gonna check raise bluff you on the river?

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One, there's no need to show down a free hand when we have the best hand 90% of the time here. Secondly, if villain pushes it's only 14 more to call. Lastly, it's also possible villain has a Tx/Jx that he'll call another bet with that we're missing value from on the river.

[Lego05]

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Why? A missed draw isn't gonna call a bet. And you think he's gonna check raise bluff you on the river?

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One, there's no need to show down a free hand when we have the best hand 90% of the time here. Secondly, if villain pushes it's only 14 more to call. Lastly, it's also possible villain has a Tx/Jx that he'll call another bet with that we're missing value from on the river.

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You misht as well just push yourself then: I'd think he'd call 20 getting 3 to 1 almost as often as he'd call 10 getting 4 to 1 here.

[relativity_x]

I like the 10 into 40 because it looks weak and he might think a push will get us to fold (depending on how stupid he is). Villain will definitely not call 24 into 40 though.

[corsakh]

Well, on drawy boards protection is obviously more important than pot control.