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Old 10-14-2007, 11:10 PM
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i kinda like how seedy the NYC poker scene already is. although mind you i have never sat through a robbery or a raid.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:42 AM
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Can anyone tell me why someone would want to live in NY in the first place?? I have no intention of even ever visiting. [censored] that overpopulated concrete zoo.

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why the [censored] would anyone want to be anywhere near northern Minnesota?

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Good, very good, please stay away. We like it how it is.

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ok we will, you can have all those obscenely hot chicks to yourself

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Sounds good to me, there are alot believe it or not.


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but in fairness, chicks you consider an 8 where you live to the rest of america are about a 6.

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would you guys stfu already. he is allowed to prefer the sticks to the city and others are allowed to prefer the city to the sticks. nobody is right or wrong.

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you're wrong AFAIK
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:58 AM
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i doubt they will let it happen

traffic on the belt parkway would become more of a nightmare than it already is
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:59 AM
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If they had a casino at the raceway it wouldn't mean [censored]. I would rather they had it in Southampton where I grew up. Do you understand how many fish there would be? I would move back home and play there everyday.

If they put a casino in Manhattan, now that would be a different story. I can't even begin to imagine how much more I would love this city!
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:31 AM
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Guys -

The chances of the Shinnecock getting Aqueduct is probably greater than 100:1 against. As per Congress a tribe may only open a casino on it's own ancestored sovereign land, they cannot purchase property as part of the compact with the state to relocate the casino. This ruling came in part to stop former NYS Governer Patacki who was trying to open 5 Indian casinos in up-state NY, Patacki was foiled just before stepping down from his post.

Recently Spitzer also tried by cutting a deal with the St. Regis Mohawks to run a casino at the Monticello Raceway. Only problem is since it's not sovereign land the Department of the Interior has to be willing to take the racetrack into trust for the Mowhawks and thats just not going to happen based on past results with the prior Governor.

Sadly I think this is really just a PR ploy to push congress into changing the Department of Interior regulations by using the threat of the Shinnecocks ruining the value of land in the Hamptons where so many politicians spend their holidays. Funny thing is that the Shinnecock's are not considered a legal tribe by the Dept of Interior yet so this all may be a moot conversation.

Sorry to be the wet blanket [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyone who wants to research this should Google Catskills Casino, we have discussed this numerous times in the B&M forum as well (not with the Shinnecock component of the story, but its all the same). The reason why the Governors are so gung-ho about Indian casinos is casinos are illegal in the state of NY and the law is highly unlikely to change, this is their attempt to back-door in the industry and perhaps pay off a few political debts at the same time without it costing them much int he way of political capital lost.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:33 AM
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Guys -

The chances of the Shinnecock getting Aqueduct is probably greater than 100:1 against. As per Congress a tribe may only open a casino on it's own ancestored sovereign land, they cannot purchase property as part of the compact with the state to relocate the casino. This ruling came in part to stop former NYS Governer Patacki who was trying to open 5 Indian casinos in up-state NY, Patacki was foiled just before stepping down from his post.

Recently Spitzer also tried by cutting a deal with the St. Regis Mohawks to run a casino at the Monticello Raceway. Only problem is since it's not sovereign land the Department of the Interior has to be willing to take the racetrack into trust for the Mowhawks and thats just not going to happen based on past results with the prior Governor.

Sadly I think this is really just a PR ploy to push congress into changing the Department of Interior regulations by using the threat of the Shinnecocks ruining the value of land in the Hamptons where so many politicians spend their holidays. Funny thing is that the Shinnecock's are not considered a legal tribe by the Dept of Interior yet so this all may be a moot conversation.

Sorry to be the wet blanket [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyone who wants to research this should Google Catskills Casino, we have discussed this numerous times in the B&M forum as well (not with the Shinnecock component of the story, but its all the same).

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Old 10-15-2007, 04:23 AM
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Not good for the city IMO.

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Why not? I've always said they should put a casino on Coney Island or somewhere.

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Then where will they eat the hot dogs the 4th???
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:40 PM
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Not good for the city IMO.

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Why not? I've always said they should put a casino on Coney Island or somewhere.

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Casinos are typically bad for the surrounding areas. Talk about individual responsibility and winning poker all you want, but reality on the ground next to casinos is often very depressing.

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Have you been to Coney Island?
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:02 AM
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Not good for the city IMO.

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Why not? I've always said they should put a casino on Coney Island or somewhere.

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Casinos are typically bad for the surrounding areas. Talk about individual responsibility and winning poker all you want, but reality on the ground next to casinos is often very depressing.

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Have you been to Coney Island?

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Many times, my grandparents live there. Where are you going with this?
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