deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

[ahnuld]

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If we want 1 street of value aginst a weaker ace I think the place to do it is on the turn. Reps a float way better I think, which is all a weaker ace beats obv.

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When I float ill often check back turn because I do that with a weak ace and make a value looking bet on the river.

[todd1007]

bet 2k on the turn. fold to a c/r.

if he calls turn, you can safely bet 3-5 k on river for value.

if he c/r's river, you have to call if you are getting 3-1 or better

[nycballer]

bet, if u decide to check, then bet river and fold to c/r

[RiverHebrew2]

I like a check behind to get some river value and for pot control. I would assume he rr pre with AQ or AK preflop, and c/ring an Ace on this flop IMO is terrible by him(unless its AQ or AK). You don't want to bet here and get double c/r, and then have to contemplate calling a big river bet. Though you guys are deep, I don't really see you getting much value here on the turn unless you're beat. I think you risk getting v-towned by a fancily played 3x. Plus, he could put u on a middish pair if you check behind this turn, and could definitely try a big bluff on the riv if it's a paint card. Turn check is good IMO.

[irockhoess]

has he been three betting a normal amount preflop?

[Ansky]

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has he been three betting a normal amount preflop?

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pretty infrequently relatively speaking. Not like absurdly low % but def lower than almost anyone else who plays this high.

[irockhoess]

if the guy has A10, do you think he c/r the river? id imagine a good amount of players would just call. I dunno i think if i bet its like 4/5th of the pot to rep that you are trying to move him off a split since the Q on the river eliminates the kickers.

thats if you are going to bet...i might just check behind here the first time to get an idea of his reraising ranges.

actually i change the checking thing. i bet. i think if he had a hand that wanted to get paid off by an ace such as a 3 or AQ or whatever, i think he bets river himself.

[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

i guess id check turn usually
meh
its dumb logic i guess, because everyone CR's the river these days
game is so different

but id say in the old days that if the entire stack goes in on the turn here you are [censored] and its unlikely he has so many hands that will go check-call check-all in- call
which is the only reason to bet
but if you check behind turn, he can still CR river
which was never in play before
because no one did that
so why even bother with the pot control argument

the only real benefit to checking turn is that you maximize bluff equity.... especially if you are folding to a turn CR