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Old 10-28-2007, 12:36 PM
deaders deaders is offline
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Default AK, donked into twice, I try something different

on my gfs laptop so dont have the actual hh to convert.

villain is a boring tag, 18/16/3 I havent seen him do anything creative. Im pretty aggro at this table, but not picking up many pots so my image could be a bit splashy and weak, 25/20/3. $270 stacks.



Hero raises $7 UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], BB calls.

Flop $15 : K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB bets $13, Hero calls.

Turn $41 J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB bets $29, Hero raises to $75, BB calls.

River $191 A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB insta shoves for a PSB...

Now what I was going for on the turn was a showdown raise, its not something I really use much at all but it seemed like a decent spot for it and Im trying to mix some new things into my game.

It could well suck big time so please tell me how badly I butchered this one, and thoughts on the river.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: AK, donked into twice, I try something different

So dependent on reds/dynamic.

Fold this time though I guess.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: AK, donked into twice, I try something different

Reads are that he is fairly uncreative and tight. We dont have a lot of history, the overall dynamic at the table is me possibly splashing around a bit too much and because Im missing a lot of flops Im not progressing much further in hands, I havent been involved with this particular guy much at all.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: AK, donked into twice, I try something different

wait wtf, i didn't see that you raised the turn.

Riv is a snap fold now. You ovverrep your hand on the turn cuz you're repping jx, which is good if villain can only have KJ/44/draw because you will never be 3bet by a worse hand (they won't expect Jx to fold obv). But it's bad if villain can have a hand like KQ here, because then you let him off too easily. Regardless though there's really just no way that villain is bluffing the river without a huge amount of history between you two. Fold
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: AK, donked into twice, I try something different

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which is good if villain can only have KJ/44/draw because you will never be 3bet by a worse hand

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thats basically my reasoning for the turn raise, I guess thats the main thing Im asking about in this hand. Im pretty sure the river is a fold against this guy. I dont see him donking KQ twice but I could well be wrong about that.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: AK, donked into twice, I try something different

Yeah, I actually like your play against an uncreative TAG. Uncreative tags tend to never have marginal KQ type hands here, and they usually don't have total random air very often either. If he had both of those in his range though, the turn is a clear call.

obv fold riv as played though
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: AK, donked into twice, I try something different

Snapfold.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: AK, donked into twice, I try something different

Pretty much the only hand you beat here is like A9c or something like that. So, you don't really beat any hands. Fold.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: AK, donked into twice, I try something different

I this villian donking a lot?
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: AK, donked into twice, I try something different

QT spades makes the most sense. Royal flush ftw!
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