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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
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It's a shove. Period. [/ QUOTE ] My mistake. I guess I was trying to actually think about why (whether) we are justified in pushing here but of course I should have gone with my gut instinct. What was I thinking? Question Mark. Period. |
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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
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[ QUOTE ] It's a shove. Period. [/ QUOTE ] My mistake. I guess I was trying to actually think about why (whether) we are justified in pushing here but of course I should have gone with my gut instinct. What was I thinking? Question Mark. Period. [/ QUOTE ] We have 15 bbs, 15% of our stack already in the pot, and QQ vs. a guy who is likely 3-betting a range that we beat. Hence the easy shove. |
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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
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If he has KK/AA just write a note. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that you should shove this. However, I don't see the point of taking a note if someone reraises you with KK/AA. |
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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
So if you have KK instead of QQ would you consider folding too? Because I think in this situation theres very little difference between QQ and KK here.
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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
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[ QUOTE ] If he has KK/AA just write a note. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that you should shove this. However, I don't see the point of taking a note if someone reraises you with KK/AA. [/ QUOTE ] Seeing AA or KK makes it less probable that AT or 99 or whatever is in his range. Also, the guy who said QQ~KK here is retarded. |
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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
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So if you have KK instead of QQ would you consider folding too? Because I think in this situation theres very little difference between QQ and KK here. [/ QUOTE ] KK is a vast improvement over QQ, you are a serious favorite agains his range, even if he is very tight. Againts TT+,AKs,AKo, QQ is flipping, but KK your are almost 2/1. Thats being very, very tight. |
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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
I think the real question is whether or not the fact that he didn't move in himself makes his range tighter, looser, or same.
If he moved all in, I think it was an easy call. The people who go "easy shove" etc. are you considering whether or not his range is tighter than normal when he makes a small raise? Note that given my poker knowledge atm I can't fold this. But maybe I am wrong and the small reraise is a tell? |
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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
Yeah, the reraise should typically make his range tighter than would a push.
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#29
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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
"Villain has made no attempt thus far to pwn the bubble" is a read.
I'm not going to do the math here, but someone should. This should be close. I'm thinking with: 1. You are getting some pot odds with the money already in. 2. Your read isn't that strong - he might have just had some really bad cards 3. BTN isn't that short It'll be a push. I think JJ and AKs might be a fold and TT or AKo shouldn't be too hard of a fold. But, it's been a while since I've been playing these things. |
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Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
LBD,
there isnt too much of a shorty here. Go all in. itd be closer if a short stack was actually short or you were deeper or you had JJ or we had a read that he was actually real tight. |
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