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05-08-2007, 02:11 PM
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The biggest refugee crisis in the world
According to the UN, over 2.4 million people have fled this confict, making it the biggest refugee crisis in the world. Adding insult to injury, it's our fault. Guess what it is first, results in white:
<font color="white">Iraq</font> Jordan and Syria have shouldered most of the burden, but the US has only taken in about 400 of these refugees and Europe hasn't done much better. This really stunned me: you don't normally hear about these refugees when people are running down the laundry list of how big a disaster the war has been. Fortunately for them, most of the refugees were middle class Iraqis who were able to find jobs and decent housing, but countires like Egypt and Jordan are cracking down and have begun displacing the refugees. I hope this problem stays on the back burner because if it gets worse it will be the biggest humanitarian catastrophe in the region since the 1948 Israeli War of Independence. Chicago Tribune 
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05-08-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: The biggest refugee crisis in the world
I fail to see how Iraqis killing other Iraqis is our fault.
We destabilized the region, but that only sped up the inevitable. The sectarian divide/animosity has been fostering there along time. It was just brutally supressed by Saddam. Long story short, the sewage was there, we just took off the manhole cover.
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05-08-2007, 02:20 PM
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Re: The biggest refugee crisis in the world
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I fail to see how Iraqis killing other Iraqis is our fault. We destabilized the region, but that only sped up the inevitable. The sectarian divide/animosity has been fostering there along time. It was just brutally supressed by Saddam. Long story short, the sewage was there, we just took off the manhole cover. [/ QUOTE ] I hope you're kidding right? If you take the lid off of a pressure cooker, and $#$% explodes everywhere, who's fault is it--the pressure cooker's or the person taking the lid off?
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05-08-2007, 02:22 PM
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Re: The biggest refugee crisis in the world
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[ QUOTE ] I fail to see how Iraqis killing other Iraqis is our fault. We destabilized the region, but that only sped up the inevitable. The sectarian divide/animosity has been fostering there along time. It was just brutally supressed by Saddam. Long story short, the sewage was there, we just took off the manhole cover. [/ QUOTE ] I hope you're kidding right? If you take the lid off of a pressure cooker, and $#$% explodes everywhere, who's fault is it--the pressure cooker's or the person taking the lid off? [/ QUOTE ] LALALALALALALALALA 
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05-08-2007, 02:23 PM
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Re: The biggest refugee crisis in the world
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[ QUOTE ] I fail to see how Iraqis killing other Iraqis is our fault. We destabilized the region, but that only sped up the inevitable. The sectarian divide/animosity has been fostering there along time. It was just brutally supressed by Saddam. Long story short, the sewage was there, we just took off the manhole cover. [/ QUOTE ] I hope you're kidding right? If you take the lid off of a pressure cooker, and $#$% explodes everywhere, who's fault is it--the pressure cooker's or the person taking the lid off? [/ QUOTE ] Both.
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05-08-2007, 02:29 PM
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Re: The biggest refugee crisis in the world
So we should re-institute Saddam's method of keeping the sectarian violence under wraps?
Your analogy is flawed for a few reasons 1. The people of Iraq are not inanimate objects, they are people actively making choices and actions and they have responsibility for those actions. 2. Saddam was not keeping the "peace" in any sort of neutral, constructive manner, as the lid of a pot is. A better example would be if there was a family that had a bunch of siblings who wanted to kill each other, so the father of the family beat and tortured them every day to stop it. Child welfare goes and removes the abusive father and the kids begin killing each other. Is it child welfare's fault?
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05-08-2007, 02:30 PM
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Re: The biggest refugee crisis in the world
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[ QUOTE ] I fail to see how Iraqis killing other Iraqis is our fault. We destabilized the region, but that only sped up the inevitable. The sectarian divide/animosity has been fostering there along time. It was just brutally supressed by Saddam. Long story short, the sewage was there, we just took off the manhole cover. [/ QUOTE ] I hope you're kidding right? If you take the lid off of a pressure cooker, and $#$% explodes everywhere, who's fault is it--the pressure cooker's or the person taking the lid off? [/ QUOTE ] Pressure in a pressure cooker is created by an outside agency, while the internal conflicts in Iraq need no such input.
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05-08-2007, 02:33 PM
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Re: The biggest refugee crisis in the world
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I fail to see how Iraqis killing other Iraqis is our fault. We destabilized the region, but that only sped up the inevitable. The sectarian divide/animosity has been fostering there along time. It was just brutally supressed by Saddam. Long story short, the sewage was there, we just took off the manhole cover. [/ QUOTE ] I hope you're kidding right? If you take the lid off of a pressure cooker, and $#$% explodes everywhere, who's fault is it--the pressure cooker's or the person taking the lid off? [/ QUOTE ] Pressure in a pressure cooker is created by an outside agency, while the internal conflicts in Iraq need no such input. [/ QUOTE ] Or it can be caused by stuff rotting and gases building up that way. Someone should really study the history of Iraq and its borders and see how artificial of a country it really is. The Tito/Yugoslavia model is what should be used here.
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#9
05-08-2007, 03:02 PM
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Re: The biggest refugee crisis in the world
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I fail to see how Iraqis killing other Iraqis is our fault. We destabilized the region, but that only sped up the inevitable. The sectarian divide/animosity has been fostering there along time. It was just brutally supressed by Saddam. Long story short, the sewage was there, we just took off the manhole cover. [/ QUOTE ] Long story short? Yeah, that's pretty much what you did, but out the early parts of how three groups who have a history of disagreement came to live under one flag. That strikes me as an important point Edit: slow pony day
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#10
05-08-2007, 06:10 PM
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Re: The biggest refugee crisis in the world
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I fail to see how Iraqis killing other Iraqis is our fault. [/ QUOTE ] All Iraqis aren't killing each other, a very very small percentage are doing the killing. We just removed the govt, Army, police forces, and then stoked their fires by occupying their land. If you went in to LA and removed the police, fire, and any defense forces, then put in a a ruling force which does not check gangs but even sides with them, and then gangs go crazy and are killing people who have no defense, who's fault is it? The citizens of LA getting just what they deserve or is it your fault for creating the situation that enabled the lawless chaos?
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