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Old 11-06-2007, 12:07 PM
Stalrock Stalrock is offline
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Default NL200 overpair against TAG

Villain is tag; i am also tag.

How should this be played to the check raise on the flop? Do you guys like a shove, or a call then shove if a safe card hits turn? Does anyone like a fold on flop or turn (depending on what he bets)?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $200.05
MP: $108.60
CO: $62.40
BTN: $48.05
SB: $88
BB: $194

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, 3 folds, BB calls $6

Flop: ($25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $44</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: NL200 overpair against TAG

i push every time
if theres another line i'd like to know
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: NL200 overpair against TAG

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i push every time
if theres another line i'd like to know

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calling flop with the intention of shoving a blank turn or folding if the turn is a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he bets.

best line is to call and spike a queen obv.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:21 PM
Chicago Twister Chicago Twister is offline
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Default Re: NL200 overpair against TAG

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i push every time
if theres another line i'd like to know

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calling flop with the intention of shoving a blank turn or folding if the turn is a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he bets.


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sounds very exploitable.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: NL200 overpair against TAG

Exploitable how? In case he wants to c/r bluff with air and then only bluff when the turn is a heart/A of non-hearts?
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:43 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default Re: NL200 overpair against TAG

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i push every time
if theres another line i'd like to know

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calling flop with the intention of shoving a blank turn or folding if the turn is a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he bets.


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sounds very exploitable.

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wtf are you talkin about
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: NL200 overpair against TAG

Stacking off here with QQ every time is pretty damn exploitable
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: NL200 overpair against TAG

meh i shove.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: NL200 overpair against TAG

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Stacking off here with QQ every time is pretty damn exploitable

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so is not stacking off with QQ
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: NL200 overpair against TAG

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Exploitable how? In case he wants to c/r bluff with air and then only bluff when the turn is a heart/A of non-hearts?

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Hypothetical...

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $200.05
MP: $108.60
CO: $62.40
BTN: $48.05
SB: $88
BB: $194

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, 3 folds, BB calls $6

Flop: ($25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $44</font>, Hero calls 26

Turn: ($113) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB bets $50, Hero folds

This is what I mean by exploitable
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