Debate-Small to Med Pocket Pairs -Preflop action

[archeyne]

This is a general post to discuss and debate playing small to med pocket pairs.
I am going to put down a few situations but feel free to deviate from the post in anyway that you would like.
For each of the following what would you do with 9-9, 6-6 and 3-3.
1.On the button folded to you-
2.On the button with 3 callers before you-
3.On the button with a raiser in earliy mid position-
b)On the button with two callers and then raised-
4.In middle position folded to you-
5.In middle position with a caller or two-
6.In middle position with a single raiser-
7.In early position without any action-
8.I am also interested in how people play these cards out of the blinds
a. against a steal attempt from someone who been attempting this a few time to many.
b.folded around to you in the smallblind?

I am looking for some of the better 2+2 ers as well as some of the worse 2+2ers to comment on these hands.

Also like i said before, please feel free to deviate from this if you have any additional info on this. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

[nooob]

1. raise all
2. raise 99 call 66 33
3. 3bet 99 fold 66 33.
b) 3 bet 99 fold 66 33.
4. raise 99 fold 66 33
5. raise 99 call 66 33 if 2 callers ahead.
6. 3 bet 99 fold 66 33
7. raise 99 fold 66 33 (aggressive table)/call 66 33 (loose passive)
8. a. 3 bet 99 fold 66 33.
b. raise all.

it's pretty tough not knowing what kind of tables, as it depends on the table.. but for me i'll raise 99s almost all the time to open up the action. 66 33 i'm only raising to steal, and calling if i can reasonably expect to see the flop for 1 bet with at least 4 callers.

[deception5]

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1.On the button folded to you-

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99/66 - Raise (position + good chance of having the best hand and not getting outdrawn)
33 - Fold, unless the blinds don't defend in which case I raise.

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2.On the button with 3 callers before you-

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99 - Raise or limp depending on opinion of limpers
66/33 - Limp hoping for a set

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3.On the button with a raiser in earliy mid position-

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99 - 3-bet an aggressive/looser player, fold to a tight / position aware player.
66/33 - Fold

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b)On the button with two callers and then raised-

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99 - Probably 3-bet
66/33 - Probably call, especially if the blinds are loose.

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4.In middle position folded to you-

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99 - Raise always
66 - Raise late middle position, fold early - depends on players behind - I don't want to play this oop against cold callers)
33 - Fold

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5.In middle position with a caller or two-

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99 - Raise
66/33 - consider limping after 2. Fold after 1. How aggressive/loose the players behind are is important as well.

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6.In middle position with a single raiser-

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Probably fold all 3. 99 can be 3-bet against a loose raiser.

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7.In early position without any action-

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99 - raise
66/33 - fold

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a. against a steal attempt from someone who been attempting this a few time to many.

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99/66 - 3-bet
33 - fold or call

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b.folded around to you in the smallblind?

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Probably raise all 3. If BB is very aggressive I might fold 33.

[crablegs33]

1. raise all 3
2. limp all 3
3. 9's reraise to isolate and push position, other 2 fold
b. same w/ nines, call w/ 6's, fold 3's
4. raise 9's and 6's, fold 3's
5. raise nines, call other 2
6. raise nines, fold other two
7. 50/50 between limping and raising nines, 50/50 between limping and folding 6's, fold 3's
-if the game were loose-passive i'd limp with the sixes and raise the nines
8. a. i'll pop him for 3 w/ any one of these
b. i'll raise with any 3

i think you can put me with the bottom end 2+2'ers, but this is how i've been playing them the past few months after joining the site...

i used to be way to passive with the 9's and called too liberally up front with the 3's, as well as cold calling in HU pots with the 6's and 3's...

[RobDoral]

1: Raise with all three (from CU too). I'd raise with any hand I'd consider calling with in a large, unraised, multiway pot. I like to blind steal and can handle the blinds playing back at me.

2: Call with all three.

3: This assume the raiser is the only one in the pot so far. I'll occasionally call with the 99 if I know the raiser might be making marginal raises. I'll usually fold 33, 66. b) I'll call about half the time with 99 and occasionally with 66 and 33 especially if I suspect the blinds will call too.

4: Raise the 9s, occasionally the 66 and 33 but usually just call with them. Playing the pairs without raising in a small pot is usually -EV but I tend to play like crap when I fold a pair that would have hit a set.

5: Call all three.

6: Occasionally call with 99, fold 66 and 33.

7: On a fairly passive table most of the time I'll call but I'll throw in a raise too now and then, esp. with the 99. Similar reasons from scenario 4.

8: a. Depends on who's trying to steal but usually reraise the 99, maybe the 66, but it's too likely it's a coinflip under the best circumstance and you're out of position. I'll always call with a pair.
b. I'll always raise the BB with a pair or any other decent hand unless the BB has given me a lot of trouble.

[Hobbs.]

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1.Raise all
2.Raise 99, call 66/33 (sometimes raise)
3.3 bizzities w/ 99 fold 66/33 (sometimes 3 bet 66)
b)3 w/ 99 cc w/ 66/33
4.raise 99/66, fold 33
5.raise 99, sometimes 66, otherwise call 66/33
6.3 biz with 99, fold 66/33 (sometimes 3 w/ 66)
7.raise with 99/66 (although sometimes just call 66), usually limp 33
8.raise 99, but sometimes don't 3-bet and call 66/33 against raises
a. 3 biz.
b.raise

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[Harv72b]

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1.On the button folded to you

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Raise, raise, and raise. I might limp 33 if the blinds were both very loose and very passive.

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2.On the button with 3 callers before you

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Call, call, and call.

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3.On the button with a raiser in earliy mid position

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All three depend on my read on the raiser. Against an unknown raiser, 3-bet 99 and fold the others.

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b)On the button with two callers and then raised

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Again depends on my reads, but usually 3-bet 99 and coldcall with 66 & 33. Against a loose raiser and reasonable limpers, I'll 3-bet all three hands.

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4.In middle position folded to you

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Raise 99, mostly raise but sometimes limp 66, mostly fold but sometimes limp 33. But if the table dynamics are right I may raise 33 as well.

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5.In middle position with a caller or two

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With on caller, raise 99. With two callers, limp behind with 99. Limp behind with 66/33 in either case.

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6.In middle position with a single raiser-

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3-bet 99 vs. aggressive raiser, fold vs. passive raiser. Fold 66 & 33.

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7.In early position without any action-

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Raise 99, usually fold but sometimes raise & sometimes limp 66, almost always fold 33.

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a. against a steal attempt from someone who been attempting this a few time to many.

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Call and check/raise any flop. Sometimes lead the flop just to be different.

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b.folded around to you in the smallblind?

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Raise all 3 and bet any flop. If the BB is a tenacious defender and way better than me postflop, I'll probably fold 33.

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I am looking for some of the better 2+2 ers as well as some of the worse 2+2ers to comment on these hands.

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I'm sure you didn't mean this the way it reads, but it definitely didn't come out right.

[naMruM]

1. Raise all 3.
2. Limp all 3.
3. a) Raise with the 99, fold the others. b) Ditto.
4. Raise 99 and 66, fold the 33
5. Raise 99, fold the other two.
6. Raise or fold depending on my read of that player.
7. Raise the 99, limp the 66 on a passive table, fold the 66 on an aggro table and the 33 always.
8a. Call the raise, then c/r any flop that doesn't have too much broadway in it.
8b. Raise and attack the BB.

[Warren Harding]

The typical table I envision may be different, so many of these answers are fluid.

1.On the button folded to you-
66: raise 33: fold

2.On the button with 3 callers before you-
99: call 66: call 33: fold

3.On the button with a raiser in early mid position-
99: Isolate or fold, depending on the raiser. 66: fold

b)On the button with two callers and then raised-
99: probably fold, but depends on the raiser, and somewhat on the limpers

4.In middle position folded to you-
99: rasie 66: fold

5.In middle position with a caller or two-
99: call, 66: call if the game is loose passive enough
EDIT didn't see the 2 cases. Just one caller: raise 99, raise or fold 66, fold 33

6.In middle position with a single raiser-
99: isolate or fold

7.In early position without any action-
99: 75% call 25% raise at typical table
EDIT: forgot 66: fold

8.I am also interested in how people play these cards out of the blinds
a. against a steal attempt from someone who been attempting this a few times to many.
99: raise 66: solely depends on my ability to play against the stealer and BB. 33: fold

b.folded around to you in the smallblind?
99: raise 66: complete 33: complete

[cpk]

1. Raise: 99 66 33
2. Raise: 99, call: 66 33
3. Raise (to isolate) or call: 99, raise or fold: 66, fold: 33
3b.Call: 99, fold: 66 33
4. Raise: 99, call: 66, fold: 33 (call in a passive game)
5. Raise: 99, call: 66, fold: 33
6. Raise or fold: 99, fold: 66 33
7. Raise or call: 99, fold: 66 33 (call in a passive game)
8a.Raise: 99 66 Call: 33
8b.Raise: 99 66 33