What else is +EV?

[phydaux]

Poker can be +EV for a skilled player.

Blackjack can be +EV through a combination of basic strategy and various counting methods.

Roulette is supposed to be +EV if you use some kind of elaborate wheel tracking system. But it seems to me this would be ridiculously easy for a casino to counter just by having a whole bunch of extra wheels and rotating them regularly. So I won't count this.

Are there any other games that are +EV in the long run?

[sonneti]

Ummmmmmmmm Backgammon

[136913691369]

video poker- brag: see avatar for example

sportsbetting

[SheetWise]

Definitely sports -- a lot of irrational players. Like poker, it's a waiting game -- unlike poker, there's no bluffs or tells. Pure insight. A lot of opportunities to middle if you have offshore accounts.

[tomdemaine]

Pimping

[Toonces]

Individual slots with accumulating mini-jackpots are +EV (like piggy bankin). But most of these slots have disappeared off of the floor due to people loitering around them waiting for the occupant to leave.

[ReidDeCardes]

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Pimping

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But pimpin' ain't easy.

[Wongboy]

A wise man once told me that any game in a casino can be beaten given the right conditions. It is also true that any game could be unbeatable under certain conditions (poker with excessive rake, BJ with poor rules and pen, etc).

You said long run, so the trick then is to find those games that are generally +EV with normal conditions in place today. Short list there. I would say Poker and Sports/Horse Betting for sure, BJ and VP marginally +EV under typical conditions and most other games are typically -EV and only occasionally +EV (Big 6 wheel, slots, etc, etc).

[phydaux]

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Pimping

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But pimpin' ain't easy.

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No, but some of us make it look easy. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[CrazyLond]

craps if you control dice well enough(3-5 individuals in the world who can by my estimate)