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Old 09-10-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range\"

Back in session...

The first step of the REM Process is to put your opponents on ranges of hands. This is one of the most important concepts in poker. So let's talk hand ranges.
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:10 AM
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Default Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range\"

Jack [censored] ten.
They always have jack [censored] ten.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range

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Jack [censored] ten.
They always have jack [censored] ten.

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qft!

IMO ranging is a process of elimination rather than being a process of compilation as the group of hands he "could have" is almost always too big to quantify whereas the group of hands he "really shouldnt have" is usually much easier to define.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range\"

A while ago one of my friends said "if JT makes the nuts, then someone has JT". I've several times verified this to be true.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range

Reverse is true. If JT does not make the nuts, someone still has JT. Indeeed, if there is someone in a hand, he probably has JT.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:15 AM
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Default Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range

Sorry, can someone give me the jist of whats going on here, or maybe i just need to wait for the discussion to start and see what it is
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:42 AM
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Default Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range

[x] hero always has AK

[x] villian always has FD
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range

Your giving too much credit to the villain, its second level thinking [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:59 AM
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Default Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range

anyone think that the hand ranges given in the book are not anywhere near realistic for 6max micros? It was one of the things I disliked most about PNL.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:03 AM
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Default Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range

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anyone think that the hand ranges given in the book are not anywhere near realistic for 6max micros? It was one of the things I disliked most about PNL.

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It seemed like the book is aimed at higher level play - SPR is useful, but at lower limits where the villians aren't as likely to threaten you with pot sized bluffs, it doesn't matter as much.
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