AQs flops a fantastic draw, but i'm caught between a LAG and station

[HoldEmNewby]

Preflop is very bad I think its a clear 3bet. Flop is pretty dangerous and the fact that I'm caught between a LAG and a calling station. I usually just raise and get it in. Is it still +EV to raise UTG's lead?

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $141.56
BTN: $98.58
SB: $104.42
BB: $112.54
UTG: $112.66
Hero (MP): $98.50

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($13.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $12</font>, Hero????

[MindGamez]

flip a coin between callin, folding, or raising.

[ikestoys]

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flip a coin between callin, folding, or raising.

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folding is very bad

[terp]

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flip a coin between callin, folding, or raising.

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folding is absolutely [censored] retarded

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[HoldEmNewby]

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flip a coin between callin, folding, or raising.

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folding is very bad

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I really think its a calling or raising situation. I think i may be better off just calling though. But that means I have to fold any non spade or non Ace turn.

[pineapple888]

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flip a coin between callin, folding, or raising.

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folding is very bad

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I really think its a calling or raising situation. I think i may be better off just calling though. But that means I have to fold any non spade or non Ace turn.

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Which is exactly the reason to call. You can get away when you whiff and your equity plummets, and if you hit, well then what better spot to be than between a LAG and a calling station, amirite?

Edit: plus it will get checked through on the turn some amount of the time and now you get to see two cards for cheep.

[ikestoys]

god i have this great post just on the tip of my fingers, but i can't put it down like i want.

raise, because you are going to get called by a lot of stuff you beat and fold out AK. you also are going to fold out hands like KJ or 109 yadada which increases your equity more?

basically i wouldn't mind getting it in here.

bleh this sucked

[pineapple888]

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god i have this great post just on the tip of my fingers, but i can't put it down like i want.

raise, because you are going to get called by a lot of stuff you beat and fold out AK. you also are going to fold out hands like KJ or 109 yadada which increases your equity more?

basically i wouldn't mind getting it in here.

bleh this sucked

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I'm not so sure that folding out the hands you mention should be the primary goal here.

I'm also not so sure that you get called by stuff you beat. I mean, you have bupkis at the moment.

I don't "mind" getting it in here. But I don't think that maximizes our EV in this particular spot.

[ikestoys]

bupkis? sir we have ace high

[Xanta]

Ike, why would we want to fold out hands that we're ahead of? If villain wants to call this bet with KJ or whatever, fine, it's probably -EV for him versus our hand, so we gain from his mistake. He does have equity against our hand, yes, but I mean he's calling a PSB with 10 outs tops with those hands and can't really justify a call getting 3:1 and really poor implied odds. Basically what I'm trying to say is that when he makes a mistake, we gain from the FTOP (unless this is one of the freaky spots where it doesn't apply multiway, in which case plz to be explaining more)