NL100 bind defense vs 1p0kerboy. Am I weak-tight?

mikes007 · #1 08-13-2007, 02:41 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($59)
CO ($60.55)
Button ($87.05)
SB ($25.85)
Hero ($198.50)
UTG ($102.55)
UTG+1 ($105.20)
MP1 ($14.25)
MP2 ($138.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
6 folds, Button raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $13, Button calls $9.

I put my AJ solidly ahead of 1p0kerboy's stealing range, therefore I re-raise. I don't know what he calls the 3-bet with though.

Flop: ($26.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

I check planning to check-raise. If I lead out, I think he can raise me with 2 overs or a pocket pair and put me to a [censored] decision for a lot of chips. If I C/R, I can put him to a decision, and it's an easy fold if he re-raises my C/R.

Turn: ($26.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $17, Button calls $17.

Well, his check behind makes a bet on the turn mandatory

River: ($60.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

I think I missed some value on the river, but then again, what hand that I beat would call here? Does he call with worse more often than he bluffs if checked to? Should I bet/fold to a raise?

Final Pot: $60.50

I appreciate all comments. Results to follow.

CazicT · #2 08-13-2007, 02:52 PM

I think you can bet for value on the end. Hard to put him on a 5, hard to put him on QQ+ too, though these aren't impossible. I think he can call you with a lesser PP easily, TT, 99, 88, less likely the lower you get, but there are enough possibilities IMO.

Of course, if you have reason to believe he might try a bluff if checked to, then check calling could be better

Peto · #3 08-13-2007, 03:03 PM

I would check call river because I decent sized value bet would be pretty much pokerboy stack. A check on river may induce pokerboy to bet TT, 99, 88. I dont think he is not calling your value bet with TT, 99, 88, on the river. I would have played the hand different, I would have bet flop. As played with the flop check I think you want to bet alittle more on turn such as 21$

Mingdu · #4 08-13-2007, 03:14 PM

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I think you can bet for value on the end. Hard to put him on a 5, hard to put him on QQ+ too, though these aren't impossible. I think he can call you with a lesser PP easily, TT, 99, 88, less likely the lower you get, but there are enough possibilities IMO.

Of course, if you have reason to believe he might try a bluff if checked to, then check calling could be better

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agreed on the first bit ... but I value bet the river here 100% of the time (wow ... that's exploitable [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] )

If only because he has shown zero aggression in this hand. Maybe if he value bets/bluffs every river decision, then I may check back but would kick myself if he checked back

His button range is huge ...

ActionStan · #5 08-13-2007, 04:22 PM

Mingdu,

What hands do you expect to call if you value bet? You don't really beat anything that would call a bet. Are you betting thinking he has a pp and hoping that you have AK? Is he calling with TT or 99? It seems more likely that he would bet with 99 than to call with it.

I personally would give him a chance to bluff at it and check/call but I'm open to other thoughts.

tarheeljks · #6 08-13-2007, 04:50 PM

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If I C/R, I can put him to a decision, and it's an easy fold if he re-raises my C/R.

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why do you want to turn tptk into a bluff?

bottomset · #7 08-13-2007, 04:54 PM

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it's an easy fold if he re-raises my C/R.

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c/r the flop then folding to the shove is absolutely terrible

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I personally would give him a chance to bluff at it

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pokerboy isn't going to bluff here

zman2245 · #8 08-13-2007, 05:21 PM

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It seems more likely that he would bet with 99 than to call with it.

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If you were in pokerboy's shoes would you bet with 99 here? I would be happy to check in down - get a cheapish showdown. I think we're letting him do just that - get to the cheap showdown that he wants. I think a value bet on river was best...

1p0kerboy · #9 08-13-2007, 05:23 PM

Can't you find better spots to defend your blind and avoid this whole predicament?

You're building a big pot out of position against a tight player and you have no clue whether your hand is good or not.

I think a fold preflop is an excellent play.

zman2245 · #10 08-13-2007, 05:29 PM

pokerboy, AJ beats your range in this hand, no?