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Old 07-25-2007, 10:29 AM
grdred944 grdred944 is offline
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It would be hilarious to see Brian grinding 10/20 NL in 6 months.

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Why?

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For the same reason it was funny to see Jerry Browne be the mayor of Oakland, see Flava Flav on the Surreal Life, to see Britney Spears become a fat ugly estranged wife etc

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Old 07-25-2007, 10:42 AM
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IMO,once he started playing LIVE in the high stakes mixed game in Vegas, an arena he wasnt at all experienced at,nor banrkrolled for,his online HSNL suffered.Whether it was variance ,tilt.ego ,whatever,his jump into HS OmahaH a few months prior didnt do him any good as well

There were plenty of times Brian,went on abit of a downswing,just like everybody else,and he would say ,he was taking a break/vacation,spending some time with family,play 50k+ hands of OmahaH at lower stakes,before playing the big guns,etc.and he was right there the NEXT day multi-tabling,without missing a beat

He is a very talented NL online poker player,but his BR money manegement skills,and game selection could use some work to say the least.

I wish him the best,and as they say "do what you do best"
and to that I would say play HS online NL only sbrugby.
When and IF you can progress in other forms/stakes of poker that you can consistantly win at ,you can then move foward.

Brian without a doubt is probably the BEST on-line HSNL player in the world.He also has a very small pool of players ,being that his specialty is HU,as he wiped most of them out single handily.If the HU games were getting scarce,and he wanted to venture into other poker territories,(LIVE HS CASH,HS Omaha,etc)he should have started
off at much lower stakes to start,learn,and improve,not DIVE head first into the shallow end of the pool which he did!
He is NOT even close to being the best online Omaha player,let alone playing 1000/2000 LIVE with the best seasoned pros around.

It seems to me that his ego,tilt and obviously game selection has amplified this downswing,but he does seem plenty level headed to heed some advice"

Brian take some time off to reflect on all this and you will come back a BETTER,more wiser poker player!

Good Luck.
~stephen feraca
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:45 AM
NickyC NickyC is offline
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IMO,once he started playing LIVE in the high stakes mixed game in Vegas, an arena he wasnt at all experienced at,nor banrkrolled for,his online HSNL suffered.Whether it was variance ,tilt.ego ,whatever,his jump into HS OmahaH a few months prior didnt do him any good as well

There were plenty of times Brian,went on abit of a downswing,just like everybody else,and he would say ,he was taking a break/vacation,spending some time with family,play 50k+ hands of OmahaH at lower stakes,before playing the big guns,etc.and he was right there the NEXT day multi-tabling,without missing a beat

He is a very talented NL online poker player,but his BR money manegement skills,and game selection could use some work to say the least.

I wish him the best,and as they say "do what you do best"
and to that I would say play HS online NL only sbrugby.
When and IF you can progress in other forms/stakes of poker that you can consistantly win at ,you can then move foward.

Brian without a doubt is probably the BEST on-line HSNL player in the world.He also has a very small pool of players ,being that his specialty is HU,as he wiped most of them out single handily.If the HU games were getting scarce,and he wanted to venture into other poker territories,(LIVE HS CASH,HS Omaha,etc)he should have started
off at much lower stakes to start,learn,and improve,not DIVE head first into the shallow end of the pool which he did!
He is NOT even close to being the best online Omaha player,let alone playing 1000/2000 LIVE with the best seasoned pros around.

It seems to me that his ego,tilt and obviously game selection has amplified this downswing,but he does seem plenty level headed to heed some advice"

Brian take some time off to reflect on all this and you will come back a BETTER,more wiser poker player!

Good Luck.
~stephen feraca

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Old 07-25-2007, 10:50 AM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default Re: $3 Million Downsizing.............

The excessive use of commas is amazing!
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:58 AM
stephenNUTS stephenNUTS is offline
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The excessive use of commas is amazing!

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Old 07-25-2007, 11:03 AM
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And you've, got, one comma, for ,,each of, them.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: $3 Million Downsizing.............

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The excessive use of commas is amazing!

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haha, he's pissed that nobody will comment on how well thought out and awesome his post is. The only comment anyone has made so far is the fact that he uses too many comma's. r4g3 lol
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: $3 Million Downsizing.............

I think this downswing is all because he shushed Jamie Gold. You don't disrespect the best player in the world without getting your comeupance.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:34 AM
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I understand his point fine. What he ignores is that BT can do stuff like "stop playing" and "drop down" before variance bustos his roll away.

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Ahh, but most likely he won't.

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This is why people are finding you annoying. You patronizingly assume that Brian is a helpless degen because he plays poker and has an ego.

Well some of us know tons of poker players, and they are not all created equal with respect to risk-aversion.

Brian is simply not a very degen kind of guy. I don't care enough to quote details from his blog entries that support this, but if you have been following his history it's pretty clear.

And btw I was one of the first people to call Brian out for overestimating the correlation between skill and results. (This was in the context of his PLO downswing.)

In fact I completely agree with you in that regard. But what you don't realize is that one can have misconceptions about variance while still minimizing risk of ruin simply by firmly adhering to bankroll rules.

I guess only time will tell but I really think you have a bad read on Brian.

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Huh? I'm not saying BT is a degen.

What I'm talking about is the ability to judge catastrophic risk. It's a very tricky skill, and almost no one gets it right the first time. I've never met, or ever even heard of anyone who got it right the first time.

There are two games going on: there is BT's game, his ability to consistently play his best against a variety of opponent skills, styles, personalities, a variety of stakes, and a variety of variance players, like Farha.

Then there is the metagame. There is his ability to judge whether his bankroll swings have become too dangerous for the velocity of money he is putting at risk.

It very important to keep one truth of trading/poker in mind at all times: if you are on a serious downswing, and you put it down to poor play which can not be remedied, and you give up, you are probably finished as a professional at that level (or at least for a number of years).

By giving up, you have so severely damage your ego-thought-process that psychologically you no longer can think clearly when playing at those stakes.

Breaks are an option, as are different opponents, different venues, etc. But there really is only one way to re-establish your ego and confidence without continuing the excessive risk: and that is drastically lower your $ velocity, wait until you start winning consistently, regain your confidence. This takes time, a lot of time, maybe a year or more, and it is boring and humbling compared to playing at the higher levels.

You are probably thinking, "BT is certainly capable of this". My argument is that he is, but because he's never gone broke, he probably doesn't have enough inner awareness of how dangerous the situation has become. Most likely he will do everything possible to improve his game, but keep on playing at the same $ velocity, as his perception will be that his downswing is a function of his play, and not random forces.

What destroys traders/gamesmen is being hit with a streak of randomness at a $ velocity that is excessive for your bankroll, doing everything you can to improve your trading/game, losing more because the random downstreak continues, and damaging your ego/confidence to the point where your game does fall apart.

After playing these huge games, after living in that world, after being acknowledged as the best by so many people, do you really think BT is going to drop down to 10/20 (or somewhere in that neighborhood) for a year if his swings get up towards $10M ? I don't think he will. I think he'll keep on fighting at the same $ velocity and end up busto in the process.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:40 AM
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God I hope he starts crushing.
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