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07-30-2006, 09:31 PM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
The aticle The Global Baby Bust by Phillp Longman from the May/June 2004 issue of Foreign Affairs magazine is a must-read for anyone interested in fertility, birth rates, population size, and its implications for America and the world.
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07-30-2006, 10:38 PM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
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Right so if it goes from 0% to .5%, PANIC!!!!!!! THE DARKEES ARE TAKING OVER! [/ QUOTE ] I hope you don't mind a little constructive criticism, TomCollins. You have a bad habit of automatically ascribing some type of bigotry towards those who disagree with you on an issue. You did the same thing with me several months ago. Just in this thread alone, you have multiple posts like this. You make the assumption that the poster that you are responding to must take his or her position because they don't like "brown" people or "darkies." Unless you have proof that that is the case, don't you think you should give people the benefit of the doubt?
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#53
07-30-2006, 11:35 PM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
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Just in this thread alone, you have multiple posts like this. You make the assumption that the poster that you are responding to must take his or her position because they don't like "brown" people or "darkies." Unless you have proof that that is the case, don't you think you should give people the benefit of the doubt? [/ QUOTE ] He's an admitted racist. Need any more?
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#54
07-30-2006, 11:41 PM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
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[ QUOTE ] Just in this thread alone, you have multiple posts like this. You make the assumption that the poster that you are responding to must take his or her position because they don't like "brown" people or "darkies." Unless you have proof that that is the case, don't you think you should give people the benefit of the doubt? [/ QUOTE ] He's an admitted racist. Need any more? [/ QUOTE ] hmmm....yes...a link to where he admitted he was a racist might help.
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#55
07-30-2006, 11:47 PM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Just in this thread alone, you have multiple posts like this. You make the assumption that the poster that you are responding to must take his or her position because they don't like "brown" people or "darkies." Unless you have proof that that is the case, don't you think you should give people the benefit of the doubt? [/ QUOTE ] He's an admitted racist. Need any more? [/ QUOTE ] hmmm....yes...a link to where he admitted he was a racist might help. [/ QUOTE ] Sure. FlFishOn admits being a racist.
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#56
07-31-2006, 12:02 AM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
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The aticle The Global Baby Bust by Phillp Longman from the May/June 2004 issue of Foreign Affairs magazine is a must-read for anyone interested in fertility, birth rates, population size, and its implications for America and the world. [/ QUOTE ] From the article summary: [ QUOTE ] Falling birthrates might seem beneficial, but the economic and social price is too steep to pay. [/ QUOTE ] As far as I can see the author is a journalist (or perhaps has some economic background?) without scientific training. That might explain why he ignores some basic math. His view ignores the irrefutable math of exponential growth: http://www.globalpublicmedia.com/lectures/461 http://www.mnforsustain.org/bartlett...th_society.htm The earth is finite. Why is it that otherwise intelligent people assume we can We can go on growing indefinitely? By all scientific accounts we've reached the limit. In any event, population growth does not necessarily correlate with economic growth: http://www.brookings.edu/es/urban/pu...s/gottlieb.pdf
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#57
07-31-2006, 12:15 AM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
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In Norway the government has realized that we will not be able to sustain our society with Norwegian-born people. We will need a constant influx of immigrants just to keep the economy running (currently they speak about a 1% yearly rate). It is really no problem, there are plenty of dysfunctional countries who have the opposite problem, so we can keep on doing it this way for a long time to come. [/ QUOTE ] At what point will your immigration solution produce a nation that has no resemblance to Norway? Sounds like you don't care. [ QUOTE ] About cultural suicide, it is a constructed problem. Almost nobody wants the society as it was 30 years ago, so the culture we lost during the last 30 years can not actually have been worth keeping. 30 years ago they looked with that perspective on 60 years ago. In 30 years time our current culture is going to be seen as inferior to the one that has developed then. It is impossible and unwanted to keep things constant. [/ QUOTE ] This is nonsense. Do you really believe that societal change is inherently positive? Do you think the first European nation that gets swallowed by Sharia will not be viewed by someone who remembers it otherwise as having moved backwards? Your attitude is certainly revealing though and I think you, or your children, may make fine dhimmis.
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#58
07-31-2006, 12:21 AM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
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[ QUOTE ] What does "society committing suicide" mean? Too many brown people? [/ QUOTE ] For once I agree with Tom. This ostensible problem is complete nonsense. 'society' by itself cannot feel love or pain or pleasure. It is human beings that we should be concenred about. While human beings are 'social beings' to some degree, and hence quality social relationships are important, the fact that the percentage of the population that is white is not increasing is not a problem. [/ QUOTE ] The percentage of those people who have produced the world's most advanced societies is not increasing. The percentage of those people who have produced the world's least advanced societies is. Don't become too hypnotized by the statistical correlations between that success and skin color. But neither should you insist that the state of various nations is not primarily the result of the abilities and proclivities of those who comprise it. "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" is an eye opener. I recommend reading it.
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#59
07-31-2006, 09:48 AM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
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The earth is finite. Why is it that otherwise intelligent people assume we can We can go on growing indefinitely? By all scientific accounts we've reached the limit. [/ QUOTE ] If you believe this, and it looks like you've bought it wholesale, then you owe it to yourself to research the historic price trends for important commodities. What you'll find is that damn near everything, food, metal, fiber, energy, are all in long-term declining trends. Now how can you square that with your gloom and doom population hysteria? Technology provides. It done it's magic since fire and flint were discovered.
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#60
07-31-2006, 09:55 AM
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Re: Fertility Rates: Is Western society self sustaining?
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He's an admitted racist. Need any more? [/ QUOTE ] While this is true, I hate only a few single individuals on the planet. I do really hate some groups as political movements but overall I'm not the least bit bigoted. My definition of racist is one who admits that the races are different. Admitting to racism takes away the club always quickly used by the PC left to stifle debate. Think about it. You can not safely discuss most anything related to racial differences without huge personal risk. I won't play that game.
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