Boring 75/150 value bet or check behind

HOWMANY · #1 02-10-2007, 06:54 AM

Great 7 handed live game. I'm on the right of the tight players and on the left of the loosey goofballs, a recipe for a great night of being in tons of pots with people that never miss their 1-6 outters. Anyway, villain in this hand seems to come here 1 night a week just to play this game, I'm taking a shot in this game, so I've never played with him before, but up to this point I'm stereotyping him as tight/relatively unimaginative. This is in the first hour or so of the game, so I don't think I'm getting obliterated yet, I might even be winning, but I don't think there's anything image related that needs to be taken into consideration. Now the hand:

I open K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in CO, villain 3bets from the small blind, I cap because I have position and because I think it makes it extremely likely I will win without a showdown against his middle pairs.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

He check/calls

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

He check/calls

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

He checks, I?

If you check, would you bet if the turn hadn't paired the 4, so that our kicker would play? Anyone not like pf cap due to the description of the player, or does my read on him make the cap better? Flop is obviously not worth discussing, nor is the turn really.

UtzChips · #2 02-10-2007, 07:26 AM

You think he would call you down with an underpair to the A&K? I think he has A8/9/T. That is, unless you've been steal/raising a lot of pots when it was folded to you.
He may have Kx, but it would have to be a good kicker; at least a J.

HOWMANY · #3 02-10-2007, 07:31 AM

I guess I'm hoping he will pay me off with TT-QQ. Having my kicker not play probably hurts me a lot more than I thought it did at the time.

2handed · #4 02-10-2007, 07:35 AM

Against this kind of player I usually call the three bet preflop and then raise alot of flops to try and get some kind of feel for where he is at. Capping it sometimes is fine preflop, particularly because the game is short making him more likely to get aggressive with pocket pairs. As played I think you should check behind on river, but the turn bet is definitely standard.

Smarty · #5 02-10-2007, 03:17 PM

I don't see how this can be anything other than a check. I feel like your bet folds out worse hands and only better hands call.

Justin A · #6 02-10-2007, 03:24 PM

I'd check the turn in this spot.

James. · #7 02-10-2007, 03:27 PM

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for sure.

Chris Daddy Cool · #8 02-10-2007, 05:01 PM

one big bet on the big streets maximum imo.

Scary_Tiger · #9 02-10-2007, 05:03 PM

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HOWMANY · #10 02-10-2007, 06:29 PM

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I'd check the turn in this spot.

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I hated the idea of calling a river bet. Whenever I check the turn behind against a player that's not retarded I feel like we instantly get into the brain game of I know you know that I'm checking behind to call a river bluff so you won't bluff, but you know that I know this so you will bluff, except in reality I'm usually wrong about how deeply they're thinking and they just bet because they have an Ace. I'm not saying that it's the wrong play, if he is finding a fold with TT-QQ on the turn here then it definitely is the right play. I assumed he was incapable of a turn c/r on a flush draw, so that made me like a bet better.