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Old 10-07-2007, 12:31 PM
jk3a jk3a is offline
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Default Common 3bet Spot - JJ oop/Overcard Flops

Villain is 23/15/2 thru 1500 hands. Plays ok, prob a winner. No real history lately or important image stuff to share. What line(s) do you like here? What's your plan?

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UTG: $151.55
CO: $196.35
BTN: $578.90
Hero (SB): $200.55
BB: $102.90

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $6</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, BB folds, CO calls $18

Flop: ($50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Common 3bet Spot - JJ oop/Overcard Flops

maybe some alternatives to get started.

1)b/f
2)b/c
3)c/c, c/f
4)c/c, c/r
5)c/c, c/c
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:56 PM
skibbel skibbel is offline
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Default Re: Common 3bet Spot - JJ oop/Overcard Flops

With 1,5k hands u should have better Stats, which make u're decision more easiely....

23/15 doesn't look like he's 3-betting light, and those people are usually tight in 3-bet pots in generell.

If you don't have history, i like b/f most.
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Common 3bet Spot - JJ oop/Overcard Flops

b/f flop and then c/f the turn.
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:10 PM
scatt_man scatt_man is offline
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Default Re: Common 3bet Spot - JJ oop/Overcard Flops

i have found lately that having JJ in the blinds and 3betting it even against this villain usually ends up making a pretty tight spot for myself like this situation right here

i have recently just been calling JJ here because if he calls the only line you really have here on this flop is b/f then c/f turn

and if he is the type of player to float here even with a lower pocket pair to see what you do on the turn then he can pick up the pot with a weaker hand

in your filters is this spot +ev for you ???
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: Common 3bet Spot - JJ oop/Overcard Flops

$31
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:45 PM
Michaelson Michaelson is offline
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Default Re: Common 3bet Spot - JJ oop/Overcard Flops

Obviously this depends on the history between the two players, table image etc (we don't even know whether you're a 12/8 nit or a 30/22 LAG or somewhere in between), but c/c flop, c/r turn, or if the flop is checked through lead/call non A or K turns are lines I would adopt fairly often.
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