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10-10-2007, 05:59 PM
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200NL: river decision
Villain is 41/13/6(61).
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter BB: $243.80 UTG: $197.15 MP: $376.90 a breath of air (CO): $200 BTN: $143.50 SB: $202 Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to a breath of air (CO) UTG calls $2, MP folds, <font color="red">a breath of air raises to $10</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $8 Flop: ($23) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8  2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)UTG checks, <font color="red">a breath of air bets $15</font>, UTG calls $15 Turn: ($53) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) UTG checks, a breath of air checks River: ($53) 3 (2 Players)<font color="red">UTG bets $53</font>, a breath of air ??? <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font> 
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#3
10-10-2007, 06:03 PM
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Re: 200NL: river decision
I like how you played it if you called now
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#4
10-10-2007, 06:07 PM
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Re: 200NL: river decision
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call, but bet turn for value. hes betting this river with 8x/33 - 77 coz he doesnt want to check. just what these players do. [/ QUOTE ] what about checking the turn for pot control and because my hand has showdown value?
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#5
10-10-2007, 06:10 PM
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Re: 200NL: river decision
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[ QUOTE ] call, but bet turn for value. hes betting this river with 8x/33 - 77 coz he doesnt want to check. just what these players do. [/ QUOTE ] what about checking the turn for pot control and because my hand has showdown value? [/ QUOTE ] well if you get c/r, youre losing. if you get called and he bets the river, youre losing. so this way if he does have like 8x or something weird like 77, he might call, whereas by checking the turn, its much harder to get value out of his weaker made hands on the river especially when scare cards fall
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#6
10-10-2007, 06:28 PM
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Re: 200NL: river decision
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] call, but bet turn for value. hes betting this river with 8x/33 - 77 coz he doesnt want to check. just what these players do. [/ QUOTE ] what about checking the turn for pot control and because my hand has showdown value? [/ QUOTE ] well if you get c/r, youre losing. if you get called and he bets the river, youre losing. so this way if he does have like 8x or something weird like 77, he might call, whereas by checking the turn, its much harder to get value out of his weaker made hands on the river especially when scare cards fall [/ QUOTE ] agree, as played call.
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#7
10-10-2007, 06:44 PM
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Re: 200NL: river decision
88,A2,33 is about all you have to worry about.
You should bet the turn and try to take this hand down. You're not folding better hands, we dont' have a hand that can stand up to a bluff and even by checking behind we're not getting anything we beat to call a river value bet.
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#8
10-10-2007, 06:55 PM
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Re: 200NL: river decision
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well if you get c/r, youre losing. if you get called and he bets the river, youre losing. so this way if he does have like 8x or something weird like 77, he might call, whereas by checking the turn, its much harder to get value out of his weaker made hands on the river especially when scare cards fall [/ QUOTE ] I think it's much easier to get value out of worse hands by checking the turn. u seem to advocate betting to get info more than anything else. I think checking turn >>> betting. although he has agro stats I'd fold the river when he bets pot.
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#9
10-10-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: 200NL: river decision
fold, what can he have here?
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#10
10-10-2007, 07:03 PM
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Re: 200NL: river decision
I think this is a fold. This pot sized pot bet doesn't seem to be a bluff. If he has something something like 33-77 he wouldnt bet this much or might even check the river because he also has showdown value. However, the only reason you are in this spot is because you didn't bet the turn.
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