NL$200 against a nit. C/bet was called. Turned MPTK. Best line?

StarRain · #1 10-10-2007, 07:39 AM

I only have 44 hands on this villain so it isn't really reliable. His stats was rediculous (11.2/2.3). My image was maniac/lag so it was pretty likely I was floated on the flop. I called on turn because I didn't notice his Flop Seen % was so low. Since the river was considered a blank (yes?), I think I have to call that river even though I might not call the turn bet if I have noticed it earlier. Advices on turn and river please

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($108.95)
SB ($207.30)
BB ($205.20)
UTG ($34.80)
Hero ($375.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $12, Button calls $12, 2 folds, UTG folds.

Flop: ($29) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $18, Button calls $18.

Turn: ($65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $26, Hero calls $26.

River: ($117) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $52.95 (All-In), Hero?

br.bm · #2 10-10-2007, 07:47 AM

I'd c/f turn ... but I'm a turn nit -.-

Edit: If I call his bet I don't know what to do on the river. I also don't like a c/rAI because only better hands will call. This may be right if you know that he floats often. But wouldn't he bet bigger if he were floating? This small bet looks more like a potbuilder to me

Harri59 · #3 10-10-2007, 07:59 AM

Why not a 2nd barrel?

ttgirl · #4 10-10-2007, 08:02 AM

the only reason i would call the river is if i felt like giving a fellow poker player 50 bucks. dont compound your turn error by calling the river. you're way behind his range here, and most 11/2s arent going out of their way to float the preflop raiser on king high boards with garbage. they just dont play enough hands to ever have garbage. 2nd barrel isnt realy great either because if we bet 2/3rdsish its going to be less than a minraise back to use when he shoves.

SnglMaltScotch · #5 10-10-2007, 08:46 AM

Turn is a b/f or c/f leaning towards c/f. c/c is bad since you are so lost on the river. River is a fold but for only $52 it is a hard one.

SMS

BlueBear · #6 10-10-2007, 08:51 AM

11/2 stats indicate your opponent is such an ultra nit, he nearly has at least AK or better everytime after the flop call. Check-fold turn.

docnuclear · #7 10-10-2007, 09:32 AM

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Turn is a b/f or c/f leaning towards c/f. c/c is bad since you are so lost on the river. River is a fold but for only $52 it is a hard one.

SMS

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StarRain · #8 10-10-2007, 06:58 PM

Is this flop good enough for a C/bet against a nit? +EV to do so?

HoldEmNewby · #9 10-10-2007, 07:16 PM

given your image and the fact that he is a nit i think you would have been much better off if you were the one betting $20 on the turn.

YouCantEscape · #10 10-10-2007, 07:31 PM

If you are not planning to call him down. You cannot call the turn, as you have to expect him to bet the river again.

I think u should b/f or c/f the turn. The decision whether to b/f or c/f is pretty read-dependend. If he tends to call the flop with air because he has seen you continuation bet a lot, I would b/f the turn.

Against such a nit, I would probably c/f the turn. If he checks behind, you might make a small value bet/fold on the river.