Second Chance, 10 Left, Blinds Battle

[uclabruinz]

Thoughts on all streets please. Read was that villain seemed pretty solid and doing nothing unusual, possibly good enough to be trying to abuse the bubble. His preflop check was quick. His flop call was quick. His river shove was an instashove.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t7500/t15000
(Ante: t750)
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) uclabruinz is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, uclabruinz calls t7500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t27000)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t34500, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">uclabruinz bets t20000</font>, BB calls t20000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t54500)</font>.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t74500, 2 players)
uclabruinz checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t30000</font>, uclabruinz calls t30000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t104500)</font>.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t134500, 2 players)
uclabruinz checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in t456730</font>, <font color="#cc0000">uclabruinz calls all-in t149954</font>.
Uncalled bets: t306776 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t434408

EDIT: I had 215k to start the hand, villain had 522k. I was probably 6th of 10 left to start the hand.

[Ansky]

seems like a poor spot to pick off a bluff.

(I would fold)

[bigbabyjesus]

I fold the river.. he might be bluffing a small amount but it would be a fairly complex bluff (either from floating flop or turning a small pair into a bluff). I don't think you're ahead enough.

[shaundeeb]

I like open shoving river as a bluff then c/c

[djk123]

tough decison. fwiw i would just shove preflop.

I think it's an okay call. It's hard to put him on an ace given preflop, and i doubt he value bets a worse king like this. he could have a flush but he could obv just be bluffing it.

[uclabruinz]

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I like open shoving river as a bluff then c/c

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He almost never has a better hand that is folding.

[Cornell Fiji]

I think open shoving river is really bad. I don't think an ace is folding in a bvb situation and we deprive the villain the chance to bluff

[uclabruinz]

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tough decison. fwiw i would just shove preflop.

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Is that unexploitably +EV? We don't have big antes, and any kind of thinking villain is going to know my range is wide and does not include top hands, since my stack is perfect for a raise to induce a shove with a big hand. He has a big enough stack to call comfortably. Unless this is mathematically unexploitable, I think shoving is bad.

[uclabruinz]

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I think open shoving river is really bad. I don't think an ace is folding in a bvb situation

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Villain never has an A. But yeah, shoving river is awful.

[Ansky]

To further explain myself,

In order to call this, you need to have a fairly complicated/advanced read on this guy. The main reason being, there are TONS of hands he can have that are valuebetting, honestly like every combination of hands that beat you. At the same time, there aren't very many hands he can have that are bluffing. Most ppl don't float and go crazy at 14bbs effective stacks.