an AK hand deepstacked v 2+2er

smellmuth · #1 01-07-2007, 06:48 PM

villain is 16-11-2.5 through 400 hands and has not gotten out of line this session.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($404.20)
Button ($393.95)
SB ($89.70)
BB ($140.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $8, Button raises to $28, 2 folds, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($59) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $32, Hero calls $32.

Turn: ($123) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $74

Final Pot: $123

lassie · #2 01-07-2007, 06:50 PM

Call and check river.

Al_Money · #3 01-07-2007, 06:51 PM

Preflop is really bad.

Didn't realize we are deep but I still don't like it much.

smellmuth · #4 01-07-2007, 06:52 PM

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Preflop is really bad.

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explain. normally i shove but we're too deep for that, i think a reraise is horrible as i a) cannot call a shove and b) will likely fold out a ton of hands i can get value from postflop but will never fold the hands that crush me. essentially, if he does anything but fold after a preflop 4 bet im fcked in the bum.

carrotsnake · #5 01-07-2007, 06:53 PM

lol, you didn't tell me he was a 2+2, SHOVE! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. Nah, I stick by what I said. Al, preflop isn't great, but its not awful by any means this deep

lassie · #6 01-07-2007, 06:55 PM

Preflop isnt bad at all. Its standard. Shoving the turn is IMO not good. This is a WB/WA situation and we wont get called by anything we beat if we shove this turn.

carrotsnake · #7 01-07-2007, 06:56 PM

fwiw, the fact this is a 2+2er makes shove go up a TINY amount, but not enough, like to 20% maybe.

Al_Money · #8 01-07-2007, 06:56 PM

Bleh its 4 handed. I digress.

smellmuth · #9 01-07-2007, 06:57 PM

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He's 16/11 and does not get out of line. You raised UTG, yet he still 3 bets on the button. He is obv showing a good amount of strength.

I really don't mind folding here, as weak as that may seem.

What type of flop were you looking for with this hand that you can play comfortably?

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the exact one i got. except then the turn came.

2Paul2 · #10 01-07-2007, 07:28 PM

I think the turn is a pretty easy fold given villain description.

I dont hate a fold pf either.

Paul