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Old 10-13-2007, 08:18 AM
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Default I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused

Villain is unknown 2 scenarios:

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $95.58
SB: $386.90
Hero (BB): $98.50
UTG: $73.70
CO: $38.17

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BTN calls $8

Flop: ($24.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red"> Hero bets $19 </font>, BTN raises to $40, Hero???

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $95.58
SB: $386.90
Hero (BB): $98.50
UTG: $73.70
CO: $38.17

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BTN calls $8

Flop: ($24.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red"> Hero bets $19 </font>, BTN calls $19

Turn: ($62.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Villain has $64 remaining, do I bet/call or c/r?
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused

Shove first hand. Bet $40 then call if villian shoves in the second hand.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused

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Shove first hand. Bet $40 then call if villian shoves in the second hand.

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what range do you put villain on in hand 1?
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused

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Shove first hand. Bet $40 then call if villian shoves in the second hand.

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yeah i think i'm pretty much pot committed here so i like this line
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused

It's hard to say when you have no reads, but usually a solid player 4 bet PF with QQ KK under blind stealing circumstances. Since you hold an Ace, it's less likely that your opponent has AA. I think you are ahead of KJ QJ PP (non set) quite often to make it a profitable play. Again, since there is no read, my advice is heavy based on the blind stealing situation. If he is somewhat tight, it's a fold
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused

Forgot to mention, that board is dry enough for him to slowplay a set, so I erased that possibility
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused

you have to get it in in both hands. If you don't really want to get it in you should consider checking the flop. But there are 8 cards you don't want to see so betting should be standard.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:51 AM
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you have to get it in in both hands. If you don't really want to get it in you should consider checking the flop. But there are 8 cards you don't want to see so betting should be standard.

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Should I be playing for stacks here?
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused

You don't have to, but like I said, unless you have good reads, otherwise I would shove
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: I 3bet out of the blinds and am a lil confused

The pot is already more than a quarter of the remaining stacks, what is, under normal circumstances, an easy decision to get it in with TPTK. This board is very dry, meaning you should be less likely to get it in, but I'd still shove hand 1, b/c hand 2.
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