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reup · #1 07-23-2007, 01:38 AM

dollar donker is uber fish 38/2.6/3, pf raiser is tag 26/20/20, i'm nit 16/11 (uber card ded)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $144.25
BB: $83.75
UTG: $102.50
MP: $24.20
CO: $26.55
BTN: $248.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG raises to $3.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $3.00, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, UTG raises to $12.50, Hero...

pf raiser took 20 seconds to raise the donk. i thought about shoving, calling, and folding, zero history cause i'm such a nit but donker prolly doesn't have [censored], and pf raiser could be suspect...

_TKO_ · #2 07-23-2007, 01:48 AM

Calling isn't good, since implied odds are pretty unknown and tend not to be good for flushes. I fold often in this spot. I'd probably shove (or whatever it takes to maximize FE) with a bit more knowledge about UTG.

Hm, 20 AF? Maybe shoving is good.

tarheeljks · #3 07-23-2007, 01:48 AM

call

DonovanMD · #4 07-23-2007, 01:49 AM

Shoving is stupid with the depth of your stacks and size of pot, I either call and re-evaluate turn bet if I miss, or re-raise to $35-40 and hopefully get free river card. Although free card play is so obvious that you'll have to really value bet your flush if you hit.

I like call more so however.

_TKO_ · #5 07-23-2007, 01:50 AM

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I like call more so however.

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What do you put UTG on?

DonovanMD · #6 07-23-2007, 01:56 AM

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I like call more so however.

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What do you put UTG on?

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With the AF his range seems pretty large, but I lean towards AK, AQ, AJ, AT, possibly set. Could be a lot, I suppose the FE raise isnt such a bad idea. I don't know what he folds here though, maybe AQ or worse.

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S · #7 07-23-2007, 03:05 AM

calls

SilentNoise · #8 07-23-2007, 03:22 AM

I bet the flop (bad?)
As played I reraise since i think the pfraiser could easily just be raising his donkbet. I put UTG on a marginal hand that was looking for information. I think you have alot of fold equity if you reraise. The UTG raiser is probably only continuing with AA/TT/55/AT, and i think he raises the donkbet with alot of his preflop raising range, since he thinks you will fold alot of the time. If he pushes when you reraise then its just pot odds.

Also, i typically fold preflop here against a good lagTAG raising UTG. too tight?

_TKO_ · #9 07-23-2007, 03:32 AM

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Also, i typically fold preflop here against a good lagTAG raising UTG. too tight?

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I fold also.

cityburke · #10 07-23-2007, 03:32 AM

I make it 48. I think your fe is huge given how the hand has played out coupled with your image. He folds AJ-, maybe AQ and his bluffs which is probably at least 10% given the action and his 20 agfactor.

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I'm saying he is bluffing at least 10% not folding 10% if that isn't clear. Also by "given the action" I mean facing a $1 donk which is almost impossible not to raise with anything.