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Old 11-30-2007, 07:33 PM
mendacity mendacity is offline
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

I think your question as played is how often this is a set versus TT-QQ, AA. This is not a spot to find intution to guide you to an answer.

Your notes say, "auto raises cbets." This is a perfect board for you to get your stack in.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

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I think your question as played is how often this is a set versus TT-QQ, AA. This is not a spot to find intution to guide you to an answer.


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no, my main concerns are
(1) my PF plan, and
(2) how to get the most value out of smaller over pairs/TP type hands and bluffs. i called PF with the intention of stacking off on almsot all non-Ace flops

i realize that villains somtimes outfops me, but not often enough for me to ever consider folding at any point, correct?
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

yout pf plan is ok, but i would much rather try to nail a squeezer when i have posistion,
and given that you have underrepped your hand preflop and the previous history as you described get your stack in,

it will certainly surprise villians that your prepared to lay a big trap with KK for him
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

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also flop ch/r on a dry board looks pretty damn bluffy, no?

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, so folding is no option.

I like the way you played this hand and the reasoning behind it as well
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

well played hand as long as you shoved
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

I also think donking flop sucks, because if we call or 3bet his raise, alarm bells will be going off in his head.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

go broke plz
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

I like your line, now get it in. Preflop isn't even that bad, although obv. rr is standard. Preflop is better if he's a rock than if he has any two imho.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:09 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

Forget sets and TT-QQ. In addition, this is so [censored] often villain going "WTF? On a 972r board? You're bluffing like always! I re-bluff!"

Anyways, just shove. If he's bluffing, calling his 3-bet here sets off huge alarm bells in his head that you aren't folding the turn so he won't bet it for you anyway.

Besides, no way he 3b/folds any overpair, or probably even 68 and 8T given the odds he'll be getting.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:47 PM
mendacity mendacity is offline
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Default Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB

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I think your question as played is how often this is a set versus TT-QQ, AA. This is not a spot to find intution to guide you to an answer.


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no, my main concerns are
(1) my PF plan, and
(2) how to get the most value out of smaller over pairs/TP type hands and bluffs. i called PF with the intention of stacking off on almsot all non-Ace flops

i realize that villains somtimes outfops me, but not often enough for me to ever consider folding at any point, correct?

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1) your pf plan is fine, it's also a decent balancing act

2) given stacks-sizes I think he's going to give up on his turn/river shoves as noted earlier. Given the stacks are awkward he may force himself to make a heroic call thinking you a re-bluffing him in addition to the pot odds he's being compensated.
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