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Old 10-26-2007, 07:17 PM
Arnold_O Arnold_O is offline
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Default Re: Absolute response

that email was one of Absolute's 1st attempts at trying to lie their way through this mess.

they have since that time come up with a more accurate description of what happened. it involves a superuser.

google -- A J green scott tom absolute poker
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:23 PM
grunta0 grunta0 is offline
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Grunt, can you please confirm the date of that email?

(I don't mean the date it arrived, I mean the stated date at the top of the letter.)

Anyone else receives this regurgitated nonsense from AP, please post details.

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The only date on the email was the time it was sent to me and that was Wednesday, 24October, 2007. 7:34:35pm.
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Old 10-27-2007, 05:26 AM
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Just received this from Absolute.

AP Official Statement [#8196277]‏
From: support@absolutepoker.com
Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2007 12:47:48 PM
To: gruntasmith@hotmail.com
Dear Valued Customer, I am the former Grand Chief of the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake and the owner of Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, which holds a 100% interest in Absolute Poker.
As many of our players are aware, there has been a security breach in our system that allowed unlawful access to player information that resulted in unfair play. I am writing to you today to let you know what we know so far in order to set the record straight, and to assure you of AP’s commitment to player security. I am sure that this letter will not address all of the questions and concerns you may have, nor will it extinguish the heated discussion surrounding this issue.
At this point, our intention is to let you know all we can disclose and to assure you of our continued efforts to keep you informed as best we can as the investigations continue. We deeply regret this situation has occurred. A breach in security in online poker is serious and of great concern to players and the industry worldwide, and this particular situation has been the subject of debate within the poker player community and in the media, giving rise to the creation of several websites and hundreds and hundreds of comments, opinions, and theories of what occurred – some of which are accurate, and some that are not.
Like you, I have not been happy that during the initial stage of our investigation, AP has not been more forthcoming in providing a timely or comprehensive explanation on this matter, giving rise to anger, suspicion, and concern on the part of our valued customers. I hope that our customers can appreciate that this remains an incredibly complex and sensitive issue, and I want to give you my strongest possible assurance that we will be as forthcoming as possible on how this breach occurred and what we are doing to remedy the situation.
What We Know and Actions We Have Taken AP was notified by a customer that a possible cheating incident occurred during a recent tournament, and in response forwarded players’ hand logs. This disclosure of the hand logs prompted our customers to determine that a more serious security breach had occurred. We immediately launched an internal investigation and also requested a formal audit by Gaming Associates, an acknowledged world-wide expert in audits, interactive gaming tests, and information security.

Based upon our preliminary findings, it appears that the integrity of our poker system was compromised by a high-ranking trusted consultant employed by AP whose position gave him extraordinary access to certain security systems. A has been speculated i several online forums, this consultant devised a sophisticated scheme t manipulate internal systems t access third-party computers and accounts t view hole cards o other customers during play without their knowledge.
As this consultant was aware o the details o our fraud detection process, the likelihood that the scheme would b uncovered through our normal procedures was minimized. We consider this security breach t be a horrendous and inexcusable offense.
We will pay for all losses suffered by the affected players as soon as our audit is finished and the amounts are determined. Although we are in the process of attempting to recover all the winnings of this consultant, any unrecovered losses of affected players will be paid by Absolute Poker so that all affected persons will be made whole.
Next Steps We are still investigating whether the consultant was acting alone or in concert with others, and it appears at this time that all account holders are innocent of collusion and were unaware of any wrong-doing by the consultant, who was immediately terminated.
We continue to investigate this matter aggressively, and all of these preliminary findings are subject to the audits currently underway. We have recently uncovered additional accounts used by the consultant that have not been publicly reported. So as to not compromise the investigation, we are not releasing the names of these additional accounts at this time, and will contact these affected customers individually.

The specific allegations of unlawful activity are being investigated both by AP and by the authorized authorities, including the Kahnawake Gaming Commission. We will continue to actively cooperate with these authorities in full compliance with the Regulations Concerning Interactive Gaming.

In addition to our own investigation and the audit by Gaming Associates, we have also submitted to an audit by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission. Please be assured that we have corrected the problem that allowed the system to be unfairly manipulated. We are working furiously to increase the safeguards within our systems. While we are satisfied that our systems are secured, we realize that our security systems must be continuously monitored and enhanced. Without question, this incident has been unfortunate for all concerned, and we will emerge as a stronger company.

I realize it will take some time and much more information for AP to re-earn the trust and confidence of our customers who are in doubt of our commitment to the highest levels of security, privacy and integrity.
As we move to address and correct this situation, our valued customers have played a vital role in uncovering this scheme through various online forums and have become an active part of the solution. With my full sincerity, I thank you, and I promise to keep you updated as we bring this situation to a close.
Sincerely, Joe Norton
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:54 AM
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Just received this from Absolute.

AP Official Statement [#8196277]‏
From: support@absolutepoker.com
Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2007 12:47:48 PM

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[x] email from the future
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:19 AM
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Just received this from Absolute.

AP Official Statement [#8196277]‏
From: support@absolutepoker.com
Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2007 12:47:48 PM

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[x] email from the future

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[ ] email from the future
[X] email from a different time zone
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:06 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Just received this from Absolute.

AP Official Statement [#8196277]‏
From: support@absolutepoker.com
Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2007 12:47:48 PM

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[x] email from the future

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[ ] email from the future
[X] email from a different time zone

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haha
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:06 AM
grunta0 grunta0 is offline
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Just received this from Absolute.

AP Official Statement [#8196277]‏
From: support@absolutepoker.com
Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2007 12:47:48 PM

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[x] email from the future

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LOL Yes us Aussies are always 14 hours ahead of you yanks !
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:26 AM
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grunta- that email now is Absolute Poker's statement from last Sunday.

They seem to be catching up with themselves- albeit slowly.

I mentioned contacting Adanthar because he is one of the lead players in the uncovering of what we know now to be true about Absolute Poker and the superuser cheating scandal.
Also because it is apparent that despite their official interim position now being that cheating did occur, they hadn't stopped telling some people it hadn't. That's all.

It is obvious from the thread he is now aware of the date and time of the email, but I wanted to make sure he had up to date examples of how it was or wasn't being resolved by Absolute Poker.

Please keep us informed as you get emails.


Also- does anything interesting happen tomorrow so I know whether I should get up or not?
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:26 PM
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grunta- that email now is Absolute Poker's statement from last Sunday.

They seem to be catching up with themselves- albeit slowly.

I mentioned contacting Adanthar because he is one of the lead players in the uncovering of what we know now to be true about Absolute Poker and the superuser cheating scandal.
Also because it is apparent that despite their official interim position now being that cheating did occur, they hadn't stopped telling some people it hadn't. That's all.

It is obvious from the thread he is now aware of the date and time of the email, but I wanted to make sure he had up to date examples of how it was or wasn't being resolved by Absolute Poker.

Please keep us informed as you get emails.


Also- does anything interesting happen tomorrow so I know whether I should get up or not?

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OK thanks mate !
As I said before, I'm new here so please excuse my ignorance. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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