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Old 12-01-2007, 03:02 PM
redCashion redCashion is offline
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Default 200NL - C/R draw on turn?

Villain is 52/5 but a reasonable WtoSD of 27. I've been playing 20/16/4ish, but don 't remember my stats on this particular table. I generally like to C/R a turn like this, but I think a C/C is OK sometimes too, my double barreling range seems to be pretty polarized between top pair and better or pure bluffs. What action do you guys like here?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $410.40
Hero (UTG): $212.85
MP: $101.45
CO: $100.30
BTN: $189.50
SB: $275.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($19) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, BTN calls $16

Turn: ($51) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero?
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:04 PM
GTSamIAm GTSamIAm is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - C/R draw on turn?

I think you're better off check-calling or check-folding. Check-folding is definitely better as your draw will be transparent when it hits. Also, he could be on a flush too. If I were in position I would bet as a bluff, but I think check-raise as a bluff against a loose player is spew.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:13 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - C/R draw on turn?

double-barrell...villain NEVER has a flush here. checkraise all-in is good if u think he'll bet.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:16 PM
GTSamIAm GTSamIAm is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - C/R draw on turn?

Do you know a lot about standard WTSD%'s? Mine is at 19% and winning% at 53%, I think that's fairly low, but I'm also hyper-aggressive after the flop. I just don't like double-barreling a 52/5 here oop.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:43 PM
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Do you know a lot about standard WTSD%'s? Mine is at 19% and winning% at 53%, I think that's fairly low, but I'm also hyper-aggressive after the flop. I just don't like double-barreling a 52/5 here oop.

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i made my decision based on hand reading.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - C/R draw on turn?

bet 36
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - C/R draw on turn?

this depends a lot on your image.

if youve been raising a lot preflop, cbetting flops and c/f'ing a lot of turns then people are less likely to give your cbets any credit and peel lighter on the flop. and thus, you should fire again... if youve been showing down premium hands that you just value bet the whole way through, he's more likely to have a hand here and I would check and either call something small or fold if he bets big enough.

there is no "standard" line here and doing the same thing over and over is just spewing chips w/out taking current table dynamics into account.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - C/R draw on turn?

52/5/?

His aggression factor is key here!
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - C/R draw on turn?

whats villians af... i would double barrel the turn
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:07 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - C/R draw on turn?

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Do you know a lot about standard WTSD%'s? Mine is at 19% and winning% at 53%, I think that's fairly low, but I'm also hyper-aggressive after the flop. I just don't like double-barreling a 52/5 here oop.

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i made my decision based on hand reading.

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He wasn't arguing with your logic, he was questioning your assumptions.

How do you get "Villain never has a flush here" when you don't know anything about villain's post-flop play?
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