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Old 11-15-2007, 12:11 PM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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Default Re: S[]D Squeee Call

Since your shove is not enough to be a raise, Zugwat can now call with any decent hand, maybe even a crappy hand, since he's getting more than 3:1, and then you're all-in with QJo against 2 players.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:10 PM
WarDekar WarDekar is offline
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Default Re: S[]D Squeee Call

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Since your shove is not enough to be a raise, Zugwat can now call with any decent hand, maybe even a crappy hand, since he's getting more than 3:1, and then you're all-in with QJo against 2 players.

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Assuming Zugwat is calling with "any decent hand" is a horrible assumption IMO, unless your definition of "any decent hand" is quite a bit different from mine.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:26 PM
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Since your shove is not enough to be a raise, Zugwat can now call with any decent hand, maybe even a crappy hand, since he's getting more than 3:1, and then you're all-in with QJo against 2 players.

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Assuming Zugwat is calling with "any decent hand" is a horrible assumption IMO, unless your definition of "any decent hand" is quite a bit different from mine.

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If you give Bakes {88+, AQ+} and djk top 25%, he's getting pot odds, 3.5:1 (not including the antes), to call with a random hand. Plus you have an all in and no side pot, so djk's probably not going crazy with absolute air on the flop. What should he be folding here?
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: S[]D Squeee Call

Does he really want to be playing OOP vs. DJK in a bloated pot where he basically only has a PSB left?

I don't think he's calling here much, maybe shove, in which case Bakes should be HU vs. him instead of DJK playing for a bigger pot (albeit vs. a much tighter range)
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:43 PM
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Does he really want to be playing OOP vs. DJK in a bloated pot where he basically only has a PSB left?

I don't think he's calling here much, maybe shove, in which case Bakes should be HU vs. him instead of DJK playing for a bigger pot (albeit vs. a much tighter range)

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Position is irrelevant -- the best hand is going to win the pot, since the presence of Bakes being all in basically prevents djk from pushing him out of the pot. I agree that he'll shove a lot of hands here pre, but I personally wouldn't fold too many if any.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:48 PM
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DJK is the reraiser

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way ahead of his range, but z is probably calling
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:24 PM
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Position is irrelevant -- the best hand is going to win the pot, since the presence of Bakes being all in basically prevents djk from pushing him out of the pot.

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this cant be right unless Zug is calling post flop with the entire range that he calls with preflop. DJK is going to bet some flops he misses/picks up draws on to clean up some outs.

ETA: i don't think he is just calling pre often though.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: S[]D Squeee Call

im reshoving if anything and never just calling except maybe with AA just to give DJK a chance to do something wack
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: S[]D Squeee Call

i prefer doing this with Ax. BUT ITS DJK!!! As one who is not nearly as aggro, I will resteal CO from btn enough that I think this profitable v him. I dont know the other guy. Also, DJK might "think" you have a big hand. And then call you anyways.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:45 PM
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im reshoving if anything and never just calling except maybe with AA just to give DJK a chance to do something wack

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Thank you
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