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Old 11-04-2007, 08:40 PM
Bicycles_Biatch Bicycles_Biatch is offline
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Default What defines offensive?

I was at Hawaiian Gardens the other day and was wearing a black shirt that said "Chicken F--kers INC."

It's a long story... it's kind of an inside joke between some poker playing friends and I.

So the casino manager came over and very professionally asked me if i would change my shirt and gave me a free HG shirt (pretty cool).

He said that some people were offended by my shirt and I needed to remove it and/or be ejected.

FAIR enough... this doesn't really bother me, and the casino manager is an aquantience of mine.

Anyways... I told him I would oblige under one condition:

next time I see someone with a Che Guevara shirt on (which seems to be half the mexicans in LA)... I'm allowed to make the same request and have him change.

I don't want this to turn into an argument about whether or not Che was a disgusting racist or a visionary revolutionist.

What I want to know is if you feel ANYONE can request someone change their look or clothing based on them being offended.

Thoughts?
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:47 PM
kerowo kerowo is offline
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Default Re: What defines offensive?

The easiest way to avoid this conversation is to do what the manager did. At that point it becomes a 2 minute conversation instead of a 30 minute debate during which no one is spending money.

As far as it being offensive, of course it is. Pretty much any cuss word on a shirt in public outside of a college situation is going to piss someone off. How do you not know that?
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:10 PM
Bicycles_Biatch Bicycles_Biatch is offline
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The easiest way to avoid this conversation is to do what the manager did. At that point it becomes a 2 minute conversation instead of a 30 minute debate during which no one is spending money.

As far as it being offensive, of course it is. Pretty much any cuss word on a shirt in public outside of a college situation is going to piss someone off. How do you not know that?

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I TOTALLY understand why my shirt would be offensive... however, we are in a gambling establishment, not Disneyland.

That said, if someone is wearing an Allen Iverson jersey, should I ask it be removed because he beat his wife, uses cuss words, and has a tatoo that uses racial slurs. I'm just saying?
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:44 PM
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Life's too short to get uppity over [censored] like this. Grow up.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:50 PM
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I was at Hawaiian Gardens the other day and was wearing a black shirt that said "Chicken F--kers INC."

It's a long story... it's kind of an inside joke between some poker playing friends and I.

So the casino manager came over and very professionally asked me if i would change my shirt and gave me a free HG shirt (pretty cool).

He said that some people were offended by my shirt and I needed to remove it and/or be ejected.

FAIR enough... this doesn't really bother me, and the casino manager is an aquantience of mine.

Anyways... I told him I would oblige under one condition:

next time I see someone with a Che Guevara shirt on (which seems to be half the mexicans in LA)... I'm allowed to make the same request and have him change.

I don't want this to turn into an argument about whether or not Che was a disgusting racist or a visionary revolutionist.

What I want to know is if you feel ANYONE can request someone change their look or clothing based on them being offended.

Thoughts?

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Sorry to hear about your tragic tale of oppression. You're like the Nelson Mandela of stupid t-shirts. Keep up the struggle, brother.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: What defines offensive?

it's a balancing of interests. autonomy vs. others. there's no bright line. I guess you just use a "reasonable person" test.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:14 PM
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That said, if someone is wearing an Allen Iverson jersey, should I ask it be removed because he beat his wife, uses cuss words, and has a tatoo that uses racial slurs. I'm just saying?

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What tattoo does AI have that uses racial slurs?
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:36 PM
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:45 PM
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I was at Hawaiian Gardens the other day and was wearing a black shirt that said "Chicken F--kers INC."

It's a long story... it's kind of an inside joke between some poker playing friends and I.

So the casino manager came over and very professionally asked me if i would change my shirt and gave me a free HG shirt (pretty cool).

He said that some people were offended by my shirt and I needed to remove it and/or be ejected.

FAIR enough... this doesn't really bother me, and the casino manager is an aquantience of mine.

Anyways... I told him I would oblige under one condition:

next time I see someone with a Che Guevara shirt on (which seems to be half the mexicans in LA)... I'm allowed to make the same request and have him change.

I don't want this to turn into an argument about whether or not Che was a disgusting racist or a visionary revolutionist.

What I want to know is if you feel ANYONE can request someone change their look or clothing based on them being offended.

Thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry to hear about your tragic tale of oppression. You're like the Nelson Mandela of stupid t-shirts. Keep up the struggle, brother.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:47 PM
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Plz tell the "long story" that resulted in you looking like a [censored] in public.
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