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Old 10-23-2007, 02:38 PM
MATT111 MATT111 is offline
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Default Passive line with 2 pair

Villain is an aggro Tag I don`t know much about. He coldcalls quite light. Chances are I have him in pretty bad shape on the flop. I would standardly bet the turn and river as well. But there are probably a decent amount of weak floating hands in his range I get value from by inducing bluffs. Is this an ok line?


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Hero (CO): $2,657.50
BTN: $2,197
SB: $2,341
BB: $1,874.50
UTG: $2,434
MP: $1,976.50

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $70</font>, BTN calls $70, 2 folds

Flop: ($170) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $115</font>, BTN calls $115

Turn: ($400) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $260</font>, Hero calls $260

River: ($920) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $720</font>, Hero calls $720
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with 2 pair

I like a biggger flop cbet(with ur whole range btw) and a c/r on the turn
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with 2 pair

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I like a biggger flop cbet(with ur whole range btw) and a c/r on the turn

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Old 10-23-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with 2 pair

I think you need to put in a raise on the turn because you're missing a lot of value otherwise.

Just going bet bet bet is the best line and helps with metagame for double barreling etc. If he's floating, eventually he's going to have to make a play at a turn bet, and since you know he's floating, I would assume some sketchy turn play in your history.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with 2 pair

bet, bet, bet
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with 2 pair

This is fine if he always bets river with missed draw. But overall, it's bad for metagame. Against a smart player, you want to be the one controlling the size of the pot on the turn/river. Against an aggro-tard, this is fine.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with 2 pair

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bet, bet, bet

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As said this would be my standard line. Otoh there are so many players that love to mindlessly pound on weakness
representing whatever possible. So inducing 2 barrels seems ok to me with a decent hand from time to time.


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This is fine if he always bets river with missed draw. But overall, it's bad for metagame. Against a smart player, you want to be the one controlling the size of the pot on the turn/river. Against an aggro-tard, this is fine.

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I don`t really get this argument. If I bet the turn I am pretty much comitted to the hand, no?
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with 2 pair

Don't like this line, turn c/c seems pretty bad to me on this board. I would just bet every street and 3bet if raised, pretty standard. If you play it this way I like the river check/call, though.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with 2 pair

basically what I'm saying is that for you to have suspicion he's floating you, he has to have knowledge of that suspicion from the way some hand was played. Therefore i think you have more value in bet bet betting (which i realize is your standard line) and getting looked up by some KQ that thinks you're just trying to move him off a hand.
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