Sometimes I hate 8-way action.

[blindside]

raise pre, c/r flop, c/r river....

[chillrob]

I agree on the raise preflop. If OP had raised preflop though, I wouldn't want to go for the check-raise on the flop. Even going for the check raise as played is iffy - most likely it will get bet, but who knows by whom? One of the most likely bettors on a fairly trashy flop could be the big blind. Do you really feel strong enough with one vulnerable overpair to trap the field for two bets? I think it would be better to lead out and hope to get raised, pricing out the overcard draws.

[Anacardo]

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It was my plan to c/r but when he bet he looked so pleased with himself that I just called like a meek little pussycat.

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You whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

[Nate.]

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It was my plan to c/r but when he bet he looked so pleased with himself that I just called like a meek little pussycat.

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You whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

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He made a read. Lay off.

--Nate

P.S. -- I like a preflop raise too. I'd checkraise the flop and checkraise this river. But I'd be more than willing to turn that into a call if I smelled something. Not that it would happen more than 5% of the time or so.

[Howard Beale]

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It was my plan to c/r but when he bet he looked so pleased with himself that I just called like a meek little pussycat.

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You whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

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[Nate.]

HB--

Make that image smaller if you can. Makes the thread hard to read.

Also, start raising more. And shoot me a PM if you're ever in NYC.

--Nate

[Howard Beale]

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HB--

Make that image smaller if you can. Makes the thread hard to read.

Also, start raising more. And shoot me a PM if you're ever in NYC.

--Nate

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I'll def let you know if I'm in NYC, tx! I'd like to say hi in person again and have somebody to tell me where the uh, er, unmentionable places are.

[duckman]

I just bet the flop.
Your hand equity changes dramtically on the turn, Combined the table has a ton of outs if you have best hand and very few players will fold much even facing two given the huge pot and implied odds.

I probably just would of bet the river but thats b/c people view me as uber tricky and just want to see showdown cheap.
If I "knew" the person would bet I would go for the checkraise. When its a big pot like this losing 1 more bet isn't the end of the world.

[cantsitstillbr]

no wonder i've heard mid-high stakes players cant always beat typical low stakes.

def raise pf.
go for check-raise on flop esp since you didnt raise pf.
3-bet turn.

[Bicycles_Biatch]

Sometimes I take your line preflop and not raise... I usually try to rack it up to "varying my play"... but the truth is that I'm just a pansy and feel I need to fade EVERY over card.

However, on the turn I'm definitely 3 betting, crying if he 4 bets.

On river I lead bet if he just called my 3 bet, and check call if he 4 bet me.