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Old 09-12-2007, 10:17 AM
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Sometimes I feel like I'm not even playing the same game as the rest of the forum. I don't understand why people want to call this river. You don't beat an ace, an eight, a three, kings, queens, or spades. Is there anything you beat?

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100% agree, i dont see how people are saying this is a v easy call lmao
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: JJ vs. \"new\" reg 5/10

kod,

snapcall
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:45 AM
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kod,

snapcall

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Yea I did
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: JJ vs. \"new\" reg 5/10

Do you think opp calls a ton of the hands he opens pre to the threebet?
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:46 PM
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I think the biggest issue of the hand is this.
1. opp raised UTG
2. opp called a threebet
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: JJ vs. \"new\" reg 5/10

Betting the flop makes this much easier to play, therefore I would bet the flop most of the time here.

As played you could call.. folding isn't too bad either. Was he agressive in RR pots? I tend to fold hands like these until proven otherwise. If you are sure he's capable of bluffing or valuebetting QQ/KK in these spots you should really call, since you set it up like this. If you don't have enough reads yet I would go for the safe option and fold.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: JJ vs. \"new\" reg 5/10

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Sometimes I feel like I'm not even playing the same game as the rest of the forum. I don't understand why people want to call this river. You don't beat an ace, an eight, a three, kings, queens, or spades. Is there anything you beat?

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I dont mean this in a bad way, but I agree with your statement, You are playing a different game that this forum. so much of the time nobody agrees with your comments, but I ussually find them to be a valid train of thought. No exception here.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: JJ vs. \"new\" reg 5/10

kod,

this line is obv fine and you know it.

the real question is whether or not c/mr the turn to induce is better
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:03 PM
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c/mr the turn?? That seems really far fetched... explain?
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: JJ vs. \"new\" reg 5/10

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kod,

this line is obv fine and you know it.

the real question is whether or not c/mr the turn to induce is better

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jesus. so youre stacked everytime he checks an ace on the flop? i think thats pretty brutal.

aejones nailed it. with given info i really think the rivers a fold. he doesn't expect you to fold what you obviously have imo.
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