100NL I makes a play

sebbb · #1 06-06-2007, 11:21 PM

Alright main villain (button) is tight 13/11/2/100
Other villain is loose, maybe 35 vpip Im lazy to look up.

My thoughts: flop is checked, button probably doesn't have an ace or he would have bet. SB might be trying a check raise, we'll see what happens.
On the turn, my thoughts are: probably no one has a hand, but if I bet I'll be vulnerable so let's check; button will probably bet trying to steal the pot, so if SB folds I can raise him and take his money. Sounds good? I think $18 is enough here, it's not like that nit is gonna 3rd level me.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($100)
MP ($100)
Hero ($116.45)
Button ($163.80)
SB ($135.45)
BB ($175.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, Button calls $3.50, SB calls $3, 1 fold.

Flop: ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($11.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $7, SB folds, Hero raises to $18

Fat Nicky · #2 06-06-2007, 11:36 PM

i would have taken my shot at the pot on the flop. not sure what you're trying to represent by c/r the turn, an A in not really believable.

sebbb · #3 06-06-2007, 11:46 PM

I agree that my bet is that believable, but what can villain really do about it? I don't think any villain reraises with less than an A here. My bet is not believable, but his isn't either...
Also I don't like betting the flop here because an ace has likely hit their range... After the flop I'm more confident that they likely don't have it...

Fat Nicky · #4 06-06-2007, 11:48 PM

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I agree that my bet is that believable, but what can villain really do about it? I don't think any villain reraises with less than an A here. My bet is not believable, but his isn't either...
Also I don't like betting the flop here because an ace has likely hit their range... After the flop I'm more confident that they likely don't have it...

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i might have checked the flop too, but what i was trying to say was that if you wanna win the pot...betting the flop is better than raising the turn. it's just a hard sell for me to believe you have an A here since you checked the flop, and i think you get looked up by a J here a lot because of this.

sebbb · #5 06-06-2007, 11:56 PM

ya, I agree that a thinking player with a jack would call me here. However I only have to win this 50% of the time to have a direct profit, and I also have a gutshot with 3 clean outs. But mostly I think that alot of the time villain is just taking a stab with air here.

keikiwai · #6 06-07-2007, 01:19 AM

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ya, I agree that a thinking player with a jack would call me here. However I only have to win this 50% of the time to have a direct profit, and I also have a gutshot with 3 clean outs. But mostly I think that alot of the time villain is just taking a stab with air here.

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bet flop, any piece and many pocket pairs call the turn, since you're obv. fos

TheDivineRod · #7 06-07-2007, 01:31 AM

If you're going to check raise turn like this bet a larger amount.

orange · #8 06-07-2007, 01:45 AM

doesnt make much sense. i would guess that you would be the flop with any made hand. hopefully villan doesnt think much. turn, seems like your just making a move without having much thought into it (i do it alot as well).

terp · #9 06-07-2007, 02:17 AM

this would be much better with ace rag

Unknown Soldier · #10 06-07-2007, 03:16 AM

hate it