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Old 04-12-2007, 02:55 AM
TxRedMan TxRedMan is offline
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Default KK in position and deep

LAG opens to $60 UTG+1

I make it $150 w/ black KK.

SB who is very good cold calls, which pisses me off b/c I have no idea what his range is b/c I know he thinks i'm tight/weak and it prices in UTG+1 w/ a lot more hands.

SB had $4400 to start, I cover, and UTG+1 about $3400-ish.

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Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

both check to me i bet $300

SB calls, UTG+1 raises to $900.

Remember I have the K of [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Fold push or call and is it even close?

If you raise, how much and why?

If you call, what do you do if a spade falls?

What if a non spade J comes on the turn and it's checked to you?

And if you vote for folding on the flop, what hands do you call with?
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Old 04-12-2007, 03:15 AM
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reraise bigger preflop...im assuming this is 10-20

i'm definately not folding this flop either. i like to call and let him shove into me on turn
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Old 04-12-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: KK in position and deep

your preflop action is completely retarded

it looks like you're smoked on the flop...the guy check raised like half the pot oop with two other people in the hand, calling a bet on the flop
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Old 04-12-2007, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: KK in position and deep

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your preflop action is completely retarded

it looks like you're smoked on the flop...the guy check raised like half the pot oop with two other people in the hand, calling a bet on the flop

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Old 04-12-2007, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: KK in position and deep

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your preflop action is completely retarded

it looks like you're smoked on the flop...the guy check raised like half the pot oop with two other people in the hand, calling a bet on the flop

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You answered the first problem already:
SB who is very good cold calls, which pisses me off b/c I have no idea what his range is b/c I know he thinks i'm tight/weak and it prices in UTG+1 w/ a lot more hands.

You have to make a bigger re-raise P/F than to just $150?

After the flop being C/R with two others involved, I think you have to punt as your Ks is more than likely no good anyway,even if a 4th spade were to fall on the river.

~sf
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:09 AM
Jason Strasser (strassa2) Jason Strasser (strassa2) is offline
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Default Re: KK in position and deep

go broke somehow but dont feel good about it
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: KK in position and deep

Here is what a NL100 player thinks:

I don't like to loose 2 stacks with a draw/1pair hand in a multiway pot.
For this reason I'd check behind on any turn and would call the flop. Fold if SB 3bets. I don't have a plan for the turn though.

The hand would be much easier if it was HU against the LAG. If we were splashing around a lot and I folded most hands against him then I'd take a stand here. I'd call and let him shove any turn or shove it myself.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:28 AM
Orlando Salazar Orlando Salazar is offline
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Default Re: KK in position and deep

WTF, shove! Someone has As Qx but ohh well, you must go broke here or give up poker!
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: KK in position and deep

this would be so much easier if you had made it ~250-300, then you could just stick it in and feel good about it. as played you are [censored], i would fold to the flop check-raise.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: KK in position and deep

W/ the aweful preflop 3bet size, I don't think going broke here is a good idea. Muck it and adjust your bet sizes.
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