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Old 02-23-2007, 09:36 PM
G_Dollaz G_Dollaz is offline
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Default 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

villian in hand 1 is solid tag, villian in hand 2 is unknown


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $324.80
UTG+1: $1017.70
CO: $432
Hero: $406
SB: $696
BB: $445.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $16</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($38, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $34</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($106, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $76</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $382</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $280</font>.
Uncalled bets: $26 returned to CO.



Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $815.55
UTG+1: $857.45
CO: $36
Button: $470.50
SB: $415
Hero: $859

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $12</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($24, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $16</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($56, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $100</font>, Hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($256, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $148</font>, Hero calls.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:43 PM
Black winter day Black winter day is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

Hand 1 is a classic stackadonk, that could be done with AA and AK as well.He is much more likely to bet with KK there, since the board is drawey and he doesn't want you to check behind.
I am pretty much never folding here.

Hand 2 - SB vs BB, hard to laydown, but this is either a bluff or a monster.Since he is unknown, both can easily be true, so i don't know.I probably play it the same though.
Really tough to fold when you have trips and it's a blinds battle.Need a little read at least...
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:45 PM
dtan05 dtan05 is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

i could find a fold in hand 2 on riv, maybe turn but i'm not good enough, hand 1is standard i think?
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

nope, i dont get away from either of them....hand 2 could definitly be fold against somebody you have a good read on
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:03 PM
Slappz Slappz is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

Both hands seem profitable to me.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:13 PM
smartalecc5 smartalecc5 is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

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Both hands seem profitable to me.

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Old 02-23-2007, 10:19 PM
dtan05 dtan05 is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

you guys saw that hand 2 was c'rd?
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:28 PM
rwperu34 rwperu34 is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

Hand 1 looks good.

I think I can find a fold in hand 2 on the river. It's very possible that he has a J with a better kicker. I usually assign a very low bluff % to unknowns.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:56 PM
snugglez88 snugglez88 is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

hand 1 is very standard, hand 2 why not call turn? keep the pot smaller- makes it more likely for him to bet a worse hand on the river which you call. you're virtually calling any potsized or less river bet.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:19 PM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: 2 hands.... who gets away from them?

Hand 1- preflop fold. Reads on turn? This is tough to get away from...but if he's rele solid tag he doesn't make this play unless he has better kicker, 4's full, or k's full. Hand 2... VERy tough to fold but looks like he has JK or AJ. Both this hands are EXTREMEly tough to fold, and I'm positive 98% of the people in MSNL and 90% of the people in HSNL do not fold these.
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