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Old 12-03-2006, 07:49 PM
FoldYourLife FoldYourLife is offline
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

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Firstly, this hand wasn't played by me. The guy is not a 2+2er and have a 23% ROI after 730 games. I think it will be hard to find better than him. Well he raised to 300 and feel happy with it.

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lol fold

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PM from Ryendal:
"your post is ridiculous, but good luck"
My reply:
"I'm not trying to be an [censored] with my post, but it's a fold and it's not even close. What is your friend's SN?"
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:52 PM
BoYLeBaNoN BoYLeBaNoN is offline
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

What are you guys doing with KQ in this situation
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:55 PM
AllinDan AllinDan is offline
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

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the first part of your answer show a flaw in your process thinking.

The second part shows that you are a prick

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lol. What flaw is that? I think raising utg here is a losing play. Many seem to agree, please explain to us what we are missing?

I'm not sure how the 2nd part of what I said is prickish in any way; feel free to elaborate, or don't, whatever.
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

You can make a good argument for both folding and shoving. This is one of my favorite shoving hands and I'm highly biased toward it but still folding > pushing in a typical sng. If this hand were in a vacuum then shoving would probably get the nod.

edit - QJs > KQo so fold that. Probably sack up and push KQs.
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:58 PM
AllinDan AllinDan is offline
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

shillx: QJs is one of my favorite shoving hands too, but I think it's pretty bad right here. You just aren't that desperate.
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

I don't like your ton, that is why I really don't feel any enthusiam eplxain you something. Since it is whatever for you, we are ok.

PS: The fact that you don't see how you acted like a prick is very funny
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

The fact that you obv don't see that a ton of regulars and some newbs (as me) are repeatedly stating that doing anything else than folding this hand in this specific situation is a leak and will cost you (or your friend, whatever) money in the long run.
If, however, you don't like money, this play is absolutely fine.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:22 PM
Ryendal Ryendal is offline
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

Tozzy, I guess you don't see that I fold myself and my point is that I give credit to a raise. The other point is to try to think out of the box.

Moreover I know who are the regulars and who is good.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:26 PM
AmazingErvin AmazingErvin is offline
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

This is a fold, the end. Pushing is certainly -EV so that's out. Raising is bad since someone is very likely to pick up a hand better than yours. If you're at the tightest table in the world blah blah yeah you can make a case whatever, but anything except folding here is a leak.

Just because it's unconvential and "thinking outside the box" does not mean it's good. You don't see this play often because it's bad.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: 55$ QJ sorted UTG. blinds 50/100

Then you are crediting an awful play.
I'm glad you know whos good and whos not, but i suggest you take into consideration that some hugely successful and active regulars are posting in this thread.
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