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Old 11-27-2007, 11:52 PM
mstram mstram is offline
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Default QQ medium deep into the tourney

I was tempted to go all in, but this is the highest I've been in a tourney and chickened out [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 150/300 Blinds, 25 Ante, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: 10,545
UTG: 16,040
UTG+1: 9,213
UTG+2: 3,339
Hero (MP1): 11,400
MP2: 7,697
CO: 9,385
BTN: 25,738
SB: 55,263

Pre-Flop: (675) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP1)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 600</font>, MP2 calls 600, 3 folds, BB calls 300

Flop: (2,175) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 300</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 1,200</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to 7,072 and is All-In</font>,
2 folds (including Hero)
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: QQ medium deep into the tourney

Open-raise should be bigger, 800-900 or so. You aren't scaring too many people out with that raise with those large stack sizes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:06 AM
smbruin22 smbruin22 is offline
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Default Re: QQ medium deep into the tourney

we all hate these spots, but i'd say easy call.

not that it necessarily gets you out of the tough spot, but larger raise pre-flop. make them pay and min-raise can look suspicious. yes, they could all fold, but that's marginally o.k. too.

curious as to what villain had.... easy to get paranoid and assume a set, but there's a flush draw on board.

curious if others agree..... if you were a little deeper, then i could maybe fold. (i fight the "seeing monsters" all the time)
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:09 AM
smbruin22 smbruin22 is offline
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Default Re: QQ medium deep into the tourney

sorry when i said "depth of stacks", i was thinking of villain's stack size... although i now see that the BB (i think BB??) is still around and has a stack almost as large as yours. a bit disconcerting that he bet out.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: QQ medium deep into the tourney

As already said, raise more PF and you're most likely ahead on the flop though villain could've easily called your minraise with a low pocket pair and flopped a set. Most of the time it's a call in this spot though.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: QQ medium deep into the tourney

The only thing bothering me here is BB. However, in most cases, I will simply move in here. The hands that beat
us are AA, KK, 77, 55, 33 and some stupid two pair hand (that should not be here if there was a proper pf raise, oh and also 64 which should have folded to a bigger pf raise).

The hands we beat are all flush and straight draws, and 88-JJ, 66 and 44.

It would be nice to have reads but reads are tougher with a min-raise pf. In general, lots of players will play like this with a nut flush draw or a pair like 99 and sometimes even A7 and even the odd AK.

For online tourneys, I call this most of the time and if it doesn't work out, I start another. If you want to get really deep in MTTs call hands like this and build a monster stack.
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