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Old 11-27-2007, 09:47 PM
DefiNe DefiNe is offline
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Default 2/4 Line Checks - I suck, right?

Comments on all streets in all hands appreciated, recently found myself doubting a lot of my play in 3-bet pots pre and post-flop. I have a feeling that it's my pre-flop thinking that's flawed. Thanks in advance.

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HAND #1
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Villain is 17/14/4.5 and I've 3-bet him a bit pre but nothing extreme by any means. He views me as LAG I would suspect.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $412
MP: $197.60
CO: $468.25
BTN: $335.80
SB: $787.50
Hero (BB): $424.30

Pre-Flop: J J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $44</font>, CO calls $30

Flop: ($90) 9 4 8 (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $60</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $380.30 and is All-In</font>




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HAND #2
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Villain is 17/14/1.7 and my feel for him thus far is that he's TAGfishy and would fold too light in 3-bet pots post-flop.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $345.55
CO: $859.90
Hero (BTN): $412.60
SB: $96
BB: $500.80
UTG: $721.70

Pre-Flop: 4 5 dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $52</font>, Hero calls $38

Flop: ($106) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q 3 (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $360.60 and is All-In</font>
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Line Checks - I suck, right?

Hand 1 is meh. Just bet/call if you want the money in, he's not folding better.

Hand 2 sucks preflop, flop is ok.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Line Checks - I suck, right?

1.) i think this might be the the best play by far..
2.) yawn.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Line Checks - I suck, right?

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Hand 1 is meh. Just bet/call if you want the money in, he's not folding better.

Hand 2 sucks preflop, flop is ok.

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What kinda price on his stack are you looking for before calling here?
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Line Checks - I suck, right?

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Hand 1 is meh. Just bet/call if you want the money in, he's not folding better.

Hand 2 sucks preflop, flop is ok.

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I'm like never expecting him to fold better here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:14 AM
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*bump*
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Line Checks - I suck, right?

hand 1 : it's fine, you have to get your money in here with so many draws. Your line looks good, I usually just bet call

hand 2 : You have to fold many times in that situation preflop, but mixing it up by calling once in a while aint so bad either. Once you got your draw on the flop, it's not like you can fold that hand anymore...
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Line Checks - I suck, right?

Both very standard.

1. Is ok as long as you mix up what you push which you do in 2.

2. Not sure why you posted!
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Line Checks - I suck, right?

Hand 1 your preflop raise is too small, make it 55. A C/R is ok but I prefer bet/call. Do you C/F AK here? If so then I like C/R a bit more.
Hand 2 you need to be a lot deeper before you can start making these 3bet calls in position, flop is standard.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Line Checks - I suck, right?

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Both very standard.

1. Is ok as long as you mix up what you push which you do in 2.

2. Not sure why you posted!

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Hand 2 is far from standard.. it sucks.
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