Heroes - 11-12 - Background Episode

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What makes you think Peter gets hurt when he goes nuclear?

[Jack Bando]

If normal people freeze up and forgot stuff like running away from people, I'd imagine those who can fly or shoot lightning might forget in the heat of the moment they can fly. And Haitian was probably using his blocking skill on him.

Chim, Haitian can actively block any power. He's blocked Persuaision, telekenesis, time-space manipulation, and anything Peter has while allowing others in the area to use their power.

[Jack Bando]

Someone who goes nuclear does not hurt themself in the process. (Peter, Future Peter, Ted) And he can heal as well, so he'd heal if it did hurt.

And his clothes being in one piece follows the Incredible Hulk's Pants rule of comics

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If normal people freeze up and forgot stuff like running away from people, I'd imagine those who can fly or shoot lightning might forget in the heat of the moment they can fly. And Haitian was probably using his blocking skill on him.

Chim, Haitian can actively block any power. He's blocked Persuaision, telekenesis, time-space manipulation, and anything Peter has while allowing others in the area to use their power.

[/ QUOTE ] It's also quite possible that he allowed Nathan to fly away on purpose. He's not very loyal to anyone but God, it seems.

[dankhank]

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adam was unquestionably deceiving hiro during samurai-era japan, right? he had to figure hiro was a good guy, yet he didn't let on to his identity. meanwhile he has no problem telling peter he is 400 years old. but if he is supreme evil guy, why didn't he make sure hiro died when he had the chance? peter to hiro has always been the connection that saves the day, but adam seems intent on separating them.

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Huh? Adam definitely didn't know he could heal before he met Hiro. (He clearly never cut himself shaving or whatever.) He wasn't a bad guy. He didn't know Hiro was a good guy.

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i'm saying if adam is a good guy, then at whatever point he realizes hiro is a super-human like him and can travel in time, why doesn't he reveal his true identity? his read would have to be that hiro is a good, ethical, person, intent on helping the world.

why the [censored] did both of them transport back to the same time and place in history anyway?

the time travel [censored] is so convoluted and stupid that maybe it's not worth analyzing, but as far as getting clues for whether adam is good or evil, it's probably the most useful case study. did adam want hiro to die and gunpowder to proliferate in japan? if so he did a sloppy job of it.

it's kind of hopeless to analyze it.... i mean, which adam was in japan? the all-knowing present day adam, or a static past-adam who had already played the kensei role? was adam in control of his actions in japan while simultaneously chatting with peter in a prison cell, or was kensei-adam really just a figment of hiro's experience in japan? when adam went back to japan, did he disappear from the present world like hiro did? wouldn't the people at the facility notice that?

[Passaman]

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Someone who goes nuclear does not hurt themself in the process. (Peter, Future Peter, Ted) And he can heal as well, so he'd heal if it did hurt.

And his clothes being in one piece follows the Incredible Hulk's Pants rule of comics

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Yeah, but see, people with healing powers (Claire, Peter, Adam) get hurt all the time...broken bones, cuts, toes lopped off, autopsies, etc., then heal. So, he definitely gets HURT...he gets blown into molecules. There's nothing there to heal. His healing blood is spread all over the atmosphere. That's what I don't get.

[wtfsvi]

You seem confused, dankhank. What makes you think Adam has ever time traveled?

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Someone who goes nuclear does not hurt themself in the process. (Peter, Future Peter, Ted) And he can heal as well, so he'd heal if it did hurt.

And his clothes being in one piece follows the Incredible Hulk's Pants rule of comics

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Yeah, but see, people with healing powers (Claire, Peter, Adam) get hurt all the time...broken bones, cuts, toes lopped off, autopsies, etc., then heal. So, he definitely gets HURT...he gets blown into molecules. There's nothing there to heal. His healing blood is spread all over the atmosphere. That's what I don't get.

[/ QUOTE ] What you don't get is that the explosion is only external. It isn't because of Peter's healing powers it doesn't hurt him. Going nuclear didn't hurt that guy who originally had the nuclear power either.

[dankhank]

good point, i should not have assumed that he could.

i have always thought adam was the real takezo kensei as history knows him.

[Jack Bando]

dankhank, Adam was born around the year 1650. He became a traveling merc in Japan and met Hiro. Adam's power is healing/immortality, so he was just globetrotting for the last 300+ years.

Hiro is the "good" Kensei from the legends, Adam is the real Kensei.