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Old 09-21-2007, 03:13 AM
DblBarrelJ DblBarrelJ is offline
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Default Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal

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Honestly, when I was a liberal I did all the research I could, WISHING I would discover that some huge injustice had been commited and I would have yet another grievance against my country.

Even with this biased mindset, I found it was clear that there is nothing about the case the indisputably puts him in the clear. Not even close.

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LOL, I spent a whole day once doing the same thing with Leonard Peltier. There's just nothing there with either of these guys; complete campus legends, nothing more.

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Yea, I've never understood what the big deal was with Peltier. I've done the same, and honestly, that case is totally open and shut. At least with Mumia, there is a little room to argue, although admittedly, not alot.

I think what it all boils down to is that some people just have such a bias against any law enforcement officer that anyone accused of killing a LEO must be somehow innocent, because obv, the LEO must've done something wrong because "they're all corrupt".
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:19 AM
Bill Murphy Bill Murphy is offline
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Default Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal

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Honestly, when I was a liberal I did all the research I could, WISHING I would discover that some huge injustice had been commited and I would have yet another grievance against my country.

Even with this biased mindset, I found it was clear that there is nothing about the case the indisputably puts him in the clear. Not even close.

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LOL, I spent a whole day once doing the same thing with Leonard Peltier. There's just nothing there with either of these guys; complete campus legends, nothing more.

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Yea, I've never understood what the big deal was with Peltier. I've done the same, and honestly, that case is totally open and shut. At least with Mumia, there is a little room to argue, although admittedly, not alot.

I think what it all boils down to is that some people just have such a bias against any law enforcement officer that anyone accused of killing a LEO must be somehow innocent, because obv, the LEO must've done something wrong because "they're all corrupt".

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With Peltier I think there was a lot of attention on Indian issues at the time, both actual & pop culture (Billy Jack, etc).

W/Mumia, if it had been a black cop in Atlanta instead of a white cop in Philly, he'd've rode the lightning long ago and no one would've paid the scantest attention. Even Al & Jesse haven't gone near him in years. RATM is a good band, in the same way Hanoi Jane is a good actress, but LOL at the grim, joyless earnestness of both of them.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:50 PM
pacino pacino is offline
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Default Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal

He killed a cop. I'm against the death penalty, and it's doubtful he'll get it before he dies anyway, but let's not make the guy into a martyr.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:35 AM
DblBarrelJ DblBarrelJ is offline
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Default Re: Mumia Abu-Jamal

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Honestly, when I was a liberal I did all the research I could, WISHING I would discover that some huge injustice had been commited and I would have yet another grievance against my country.

Even with this biased mindset, I found it was clear that there is nothing about the case the indisputably puts him in the clear. Not even close.

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LOL, I spent a whole day once doing the same thing with Leonard Peltier. There's just nothing there with either of these guys; complete campus legends, nothing more.

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Yea, I've never understood what the big deal was with Peltier. I've done the same, and honestly, that case is totally open and shut. At least with Mumia, there is a little room to argue, although admittedly, not alot.

I think what it all boils down to is that some people just have such a bias against any law enforcement officer that anyone accused of killing a LEO must be somehow innocent, because obv, the LEO must've done something wrong because "they're all corrupt".

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With Peltier I think there was a lot of attention on Indian issues at the time, both actual & pop culture (Billy Jack, etc).

W/Mumia, if it had been a black cop in Atlanta instead of a white cop in Philly, he'd've rode the lightning long ago and no one would've paid the scantest attention. Even Al & Jesse haven't gone near him in years. RATM is a good band, in the same way Hanoi Jane is a good actress, but LOL at the grim, joyless earnestness of both of them.

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When you really think about it, I'm not delusional enough to think that what I do is important to life as we know it on this planet. No. But neither is what you do.

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I think many celebrities would do well to heed this message.
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