Wednesday's AP Post, Internal Audit Planned.

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I just received this email from Absolute, which contains (new?) information about a voluntary self-audit:

Dear Corey,

Absolute Poker Management wishes to inform the poker community of the following information in response to the most recent claims posted over the past 48 hours on the 2+2 and Pocket Fives forums wherein again it is alleged that some person or persons breached Absolute Poker’s redundant and varying levels of game client security. As was stated in Absolute Poker’s Official Response released on Friday October 12, 2007, Absolute Poker conducted an extensive investigation in response to the claims it was made aware of and received. The results of that investigation indicated that to the best of Absolute Poker’s knowledge, information and belief there was no security breach. Specifically, Absolute Poker’s internal investigation determined that it is impossible for any person, device, program, script or other means to see hole cards.

Based on the most recent claims that Absolute Poker has been made aware of and at the request of some of our players and business partners, Absolute Poker has agreed to retain a widely acclaimed independent third party auditor, Gaming Associates, to conduct an independent audit of Absolute Poker’s security systems. Specifically, Absolute Poker has requested that Gaming Associates conduct a thorough and extensive review of Absolute Poker’s practices and security systems to determine whether it is possible for any person, device, program, script or other means to see hole cards thereby gaining an unfair advantage. (http://www.gamingassociates.com)

Absolute Poker has agreed to fully cooperate with Gaming Associates and its investigative team and to provide the above with unfettered access to all systems, protocols and databases at Absolute Poker worldwide. Absolute Poker has also agreed to allow Gaming Associate’s final report to be made available to Pocket Fives and Bluff Media for their review.

With respect to the claims that Scott Tom, a former Member of Team Absolute Poker, is in anyway involved in wrong-doing, Absolute Poker has requested a formal investigation into that matter as well. Mr. Tom has not been involved with Absolute Poker for over a year and to the best of our knowledge, information and belief has not had access to any of Absolute Poker’s systems, databases or information.

Absolute Poker reserves the right to pursue any and all remedies whether in law or equitable which may procure to it as a result of any unlawful and injurious actions taken by any individuals who may have falsified any information, documents, files, or have by other means attempted to disparage and/or harm Absolute Poker, its Players, its current or former management, employees, business partners or affiliates.

Absolute Poker shall bear all expenses related to such investigation and is eager to learn about Gaming Associate’s findings. Absolute Poker highly values and intends to protect its players, shareholders, business partners, and affiliates.

Absolute Poker Management


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[mother_brain]

I personally don't see what conclusion the auditors could come up with, other than some form of guilt, that would hold any validity.

If we were to view the audit as comprable to a civil case only a proponderence of the evidence is required. I think that any reasonably knowledgable person could concede at least this simply from the information that has been posted here thus far.

[Triple_J]

NVG anyone? I want to read BBV stuff in BBV forum

[basementproject]

Are you serious?

[Gobias Ind.]

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nice catch, I was about to rip on you for "NWG"

I mean seriously. The "W" is isn't THAT close to the "V" on most keyboards

[dibbs]

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I personally don't see what conclusion the auditors could come up with, other than some form of guilt, that would hold any validity.

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It's still hard to say, Abso might be so damn incompetent that they won't clean out evidence in their systems of this stuff, but maybe they'll realize they need to and will.

It seems like the work of Nat Snaggle etc, the tourney history complete with IP links etc will end up in their hands, which seems evidence enough for me, but I have no idea how these guys work.

[Triple_J]

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NVG anyone? I want to read BBV stuff in BBV forum

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nice catch, I was about to rip on you for "NWG"

I mean seriously. The "W" is isn't THAT close to the "V" on most keyboards

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lol, dunno what I was thinking the first time around, maybe the fact that I'm so pissed of these kind of posts.
And I don't speak English as a native language, so I Wievs sounded good enough imo

[apefish]

I would be Absolutely shocked (yeah it still hasnt gotten unfunny for me yet) if with all the lead time and all the evidence against someone at Absolute that has been laying around to be seen for some time now- if they haven't cleaned up internally.

It is quite apparent Scott Tom or whomever was using his email/IP reads the threads has done some backtracking to cover themselves.

The most damning piece no doubt will be the emailed HHs along with the traces done by our expert detectives in the threads- but it's entirely possible that stuff never comes to light in this "internal investigation".

Then again... I'm pretty sure Absolute is as incompetent internally as I've ever come across- so who knows if a baboon, chimp, and a couple hyenas can formulate a coverup or not.

[mother_brain]

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I personally don't see what conclusion the auditors could come up with, other than some form of guilt, that would hold any validity.

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It's still hard to say, Abso might be so damn incompetent that they won't clean out evidence in their systems of this stuff, but maybe they'll realize they need to and will.

It seems like the work of Nat Snaggle etc, the tourney history complete with IP links etc will end up in their hands, which seems evidence enough for me, but I have no idea how these guys work.

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The XLS file is certainly the most damning evidence in my mind. As somebody pointed out in the last thread, APs initial email claims that there is essintially no apparatus that has access to hole cards until a showdown. However, some system created this file (and presumably does so for every hand played on the site). Obviously most of these hands did not go to showdown yet all hole cards were known.

If it is confirmed that Scott Tom (or even somebody from his house) was one of the suspected players this is also going to be hard to explain. I know of some casinos that dont even allow their dealers to play on the tables during their off hours. Now one of APs initial executives in suspected in high stakes cheating.

It seems to me that he will likely come down as the fall guy when the dust settles. Likely no financial damage will be done to him, but to his reputation rather than APs. The email seems to be their first step in distancing themselves from him.

[teh_minbet_pokr]

could someone who has intimate knowledge of the data(like nat or druff) attempt to contact Gaming Associates and offer to assist them in any manner?