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Old 12-11-2006, 02:52 PM
AK47Suited AK47Suited is offline
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

I'd call for sure, if he went runner runner T's on you oh well.
this is a call 100% of the time.

Im probaly over aggressive but i would think about re-raising this myself, but definitely at least a call.
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Old 12-11-2006, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

e,

How does he generally play flush draws? How do you think he plays T9c on the flop?

This river seems like such a standard bluff spot from an aggro player that I can't see folding here.

Would be even more interesting if he pushed the remaining 4k in as well.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

Diablo,

If he had some sort of combo draw I think he would have check raised the flop. If he had a naked flush draw he probably mixes it up between c/c and c/r.

-Evan
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

All,

For those saying call, what % of the time do you think we win? What does his hand range look like? Eg 35% busted flush draw, 35 air, 30% better hand, etc.

-Evan
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

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Im probaly over aggressive but i would think about re-raising this myself, but definitely at least a call.

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I think that would be a little much. If were calling its because he has a air a lot. I cant really see him value raising the river with a hand I dont lose to, and even if he did, I cant see him calling my 3 bet.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

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Also, fold preflop if hes calling every time and very hard to bluff.

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I actually disagree with this rather strongly. I think Ill show a fairly substantial profit with 43s against this guy when were 400 BB deep. If we were only 1 stack deep than I would be more inclined to agree with you.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

if you're going to show a profit with 43s (which I agree that you will) won't it be in hands exactly like this one? I honestly don't see how you're possibly afraid of running tens when this is a good bluff spot and he can have sooo many hands you beat.
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Old 12-12-2006, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

TWP,

It's a sophisticated bluff because the river T is NOT a good bluff card for either player. villain should not expect to get credit for a backdoor boat, which is the ONLY hand he's representing. since a 3 is equivalent to JJ-AA here, i'm expecting all those who say call to call with overpairs as well...

bluffing when you should get called = tricky.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

I dont know, man. Seems to me like a spot where people are likely to bet/fold overpairs or to bluff with no showdown value a lot more often than they are going to bet/call. I mean, what can they bet/call with if not even a 3?
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: Maybe interesting river decision, 10-25 NL HU, 400 bb deep

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I check behind on river this deep.

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christ that is AWFUL.

and ahnuld I agree w/ evanski, folding preflop is bad this deep.
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