QJo - 6Q6 - Something is wrong here, I don't belong here

F. McSimmons · #1 08-17-2007, 02:01 PM

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, MP3 folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (12 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

Both villains are unknown. I'm sure there are about 100 mistakes here.

sean c · #2 08-17-2007, 02:16 PM

I'm not raising the flop after UTG2 smooth calls. After calling the flop if the turn action went bet, raise I would fold. As played you can fold the river without a second thought your never ever good here.

jeanbaptiste36 · #3 08-17-2007, 02:20 PM

Fold preflop.

boss · #4 08-18-2007, 07:07 AM

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Fold preflop.

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Don't play off-suite cards in a bad position.

As played fold the river, your hand is never good

F. McSimmons · #5 08-18-2007, 10:33 AM

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As played fold the river, your hand is never good

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I don't think this is true. It may not be good often enough to call here, but I think there are times that he has something funny like an overpair or just a bluff.

bennyhana · #6 08-18-2007, 11:21 AM

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I think there are times that he has something funny like an overpair

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lol, seriously

JJack · #7 08-17-2007, 02:22 PM

i dont limp with trap hand at middle possition (only at late i do)

flop i also raise we have probably the best hand and BB can bet weaker Q , FD or trips 6.

turn - since BB dont raise here i think he dont have trips and i also dont think that ugt has better hand then our 2 top pair cus he dint raise flop
i would 3bet turn for value

sean c · #8 08-17-2007, 02:27 PM

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turn - since BB dont raise here i think he dont have trips and i also dont think that ugt has better hand then our 2 top pair cus he dint raise flop
i would 3bet turn for value

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Spewtastic.

NIX · #9 08-17-2007, 02:29 PM

PF, I limp since I figure most of the other players have bad cards or bad skills.

Flop, I play the same. BB may have us out kicked, but not necessarily since he has a random hand which can include a lot worse queens. Also, if with two people in, BB and UTG+2, I'd raise to also get value from flush draws and/or those worse queens.

Turn, UTG+2 played it exactly like 6x, but you have odds to call for a 4-outer.

River, I probably call as well since the pot is big, but you aren't ahead very often.

Bona · #10 08-17-2007, 02:59 PM

Since we have no reads and also no information about the table dynamic I probably fold this preflop (but then I am a little tight so QJo doesn't have much appeal to me)

As Played: I like the flop raise.
Turn bet is appropriate ... UH OH did UTG+2 slowplay trips on the flop? (most probable) Or maybe make a set w/JJ? (doubtful) I don't think he raises here if he hit Jx or found a draw. Lets call it though. If we are behind (and we often are IMO) we have 4-6 outs and getting 10:1

I call down as you did. He has to have the 6 (probably does) or a set to beat us, QJ to chop, and MP3 isn't beating us so lets call.

River? Do we win here 1 in 12 or so (BB is not raising. He is toast here). I think so at .25/.50 (Thats where I play a lot and I see lots of strange plays from unknowns so I make a crying call on the river.)