100NL: TP meh kicker. Valuetown...but who's taking who?

[SirFelixCat]

Not much history w/ villain, but he's one of the reasons I'm at the table. 44/18/2.8 and he's pretty passive postflop. Likes to take stabs at orphan pots, but pretty much just passive unless he has a monster. When he does, you hear about it on the turn (4.5AF on turn).

My image is pretty TAG-ish and had had a few big hands hold up, hence the stack size, so nothing too out of line.

The question here is bet-sizing and what to make of his donk (blocking?) bet on the river and how to play it from there.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $354.30
BTN: $158.40
SB: $118.15
BB: $96.80
UTG: $98.50
MP: $194.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $4

Flop: ($11.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.50</font>, MP calls $8.50

Turn: ($28.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $19</font>, MP calls $19

River: ($66.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $22</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

[BombayBadboy]

I hate these spots, have alot of trouble with them myself..I think a big part of his range is Jx. He won't show up with a draw.

Given odds, I call and won't be surprised if he has AT or J9.

[clowntable]

I don't see too much that he limp/calls with and then calls flop and turn.
With your read of him getting agressive on the turn with a hand I'd say Jx or a pair under the J are the most interesting hands.
Of the limp/callable hands you beat J8, 77, 88 on the river and tie JT. With your read I'm discounting 22/66.
He could very well have [99, JT, J9, J8] 77/88 would still make sense up untill the river. Vs donkish players I don't treat a 1/3 PSB as a protective bet too often.
Given odds I'd call.
Any reads on how he plays his middle pairs?

[Symbolic]

You can't fold this getting 4:1. He has a J a lot (sometimes J9) maybe like TT or something or even 54/53/43 at a long shot. It's no fistpump but I'm sure sure you're good &gt;20% of the time here.

[klb.]

Obviously he aint thinking of folding? He's thinking of valueraising, the only trouble is that villain probably wont call to much with hands you beat, with a hand like AJ I definitely raise here, but TJ is kinda the crossover spot, I'm just calling here altough I don't hate on small raise. WP to the river by the way.

[Kreatief]

Yep, looked as if he raised the river here.

Id just call given the odds. 20% is def ok to find a call here. Id say he often just has any j or a midpair.

[markuisis]

I dont really like ur turn bet, as played just call the river hoping he has a worse jack, or some mid pp - def not a snapler though since he is going to have a better jack a decent amount of the time but not enough given pot odds id say.

[Gorgi24]

I think he is taking you too valuetown, I would never raise in this spot. Just close your eyes and calls. I agree that some times he would show with J8s, J7s given his stats

[klb.]

He would miss out alot of value by not betting turn, come on? And if you're not going to raise river it's a no-brainer call, 4:1 and villains range is still wide and we beat most of it?

[Lucky]

I dont think you make any money by folding in these spots. he'll show you some goofy J or 88/77, or even something like 5h4h the 20%+ of time he needs to.