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Old 07-16-2007, 09:08 AM
Ducatisti Ducatisti is offline
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Default $50nl Suited Conns UTG

Ok Im raising here UTG, Just arrived at the table so no reads on anyone. First of all do you guys call the 3-bet? Then whats your action on the turn?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $37.55
BB: $49.20
Duke748 (UTG): $49.00
MP: $148.55
CO: $47.75
BTN: $20.85

Preflop: Duke748 is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Duke748 raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, 4 folds, Duke748 calls $5.00

Flop: ($14.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Duke748 checks, <font color="red">MP bets $11.00</font>, <font color="red">Duke748 raises to $22.00</font>, MP calls $11.00

Turn: ($58.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Duke748 ?</font>
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:17 AM
relativity_x relativity_x is offline
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Default Re: $50nl Suited Conns UTG

If this is your first orbit at the table, then I fold to his 3bet.

Min check raise is no good here because he has an overpair a lot here and AK is the only hand you're folding out in his range.

After he calls your cr, you need to cf turn.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:23 AM
ph2133868789 ph2133868789 is offline
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Default Re: $50nl Suited Conns UTG

I ... Fold preflop. Fold flop. Fold turn out of turn.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:17 AM
Antinome Antinome is offline
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Default Re: $50nl Suited Conns UTG

fold preflop to 3bet, no way you can play this profitably post.

c/c or c/f flop, c/r is only getting called by the part of his range that beats you.

Now that we've reached turn, if I have more than half my stack in and have represented strength I'm going to open push and see if he can fold his overpair.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:24 AM
corsakh corsakh is offline
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Default Re: $50nl Suited Conns UTG

Provided you ask this sort of questions, fold preflop. I dont mean fold to a reraise, I mean just fold.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:30 AM
Antinome Antinome is offline
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Default Re: $50nl Suited Conns UTG

If you've just arrived at the table and have no sense of how this table is running I agree, this is a fold pre. Also, if you've just arrived at the table, what are you doing posting UTG?
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:34 AM
ocdscale ocdscale is offline
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Default Re: $50nl Suited Conns UTG

Raising UTG with SCs is fine.
Calling the 3bet is bad absent reads.
Calling the 3bet then falling in love with TP is horrible.

If you're going to checkraise, make it bigger. A min checkraise can scare Villain, but fold equity is small, you need to follow up on the next street.

As played, I'm torn between c/f and shoving. A shove here will probably get villian to fold JJ, certainly overcards.
QQ is a tossup, AA/KK is always calling. We have a fair amount of outs against those overcards, so I think semibluff shoving is okay in this spot.

Because this is your first orbit, I think the benefit to your image tips the decision towards shoving.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:50 AM
mattnxtc mattnxtc is offline
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Default Re: $50nl Suited Conns UTG

Only real bet you can make is a push though I really hate your flop raise. I could see calling his flop bet pushing the turn but as played you really dont have enough to push the majority of his range off this hand
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:58 AM
WHITEBOYAEHS WHITEBOYAEHS is offline
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Default Re: $50nl Suited Conns UTG

a couple things here.... LOL AT CORSAKH.... and ocdscale ure giving him too much fe... for me aa-qq =SNAP CALL especially against someone i dont know... people show down all sorts of crap here...jj= probably call and 99-tt=tossup... hero wtf fold to 3bet pf
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:00 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default Re: $50nl Suited Conns UTG

You absolutely must fold this to a 3bet pre-flop. I think I found out why - you have no idea where you're at, and you're investing your entire stack on a marginal hand
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