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Old 11-29-2007, 02:25 PM
DblBarrelJ DblBarrelJ is offline
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This whole "all religion is ignorant stupidity" business isn't science, it's just arrogance. Dawkins should shut the hell up. He's just using science to justify his personal trip -- snobbery. That, and sell books to the angry egghead market, which is large.

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QFT.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:55 PM
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This whole "all religion is ignorant stupidity" business isn't science, it's just arrogance. Dawkins should shut the hell up. He's just using science to justify his personal trip -- snobbery. That, and sell books to the angry egghead market, which is large.

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QFT.

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Safe to guess you've never read anything by Richard Dawkins?
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:57 PM
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Safe to guess you've never read anything by Richard Dawkins?

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Wrong. Selfish Gene is fascinating, I love that stuff.

His current political musings in God Delusion are juvenile. Have read debate transcripts and op eds by him, and reviews of it.

He makes a routine error of hard science folks: thinking the certitude of beakers, rocks, and enzymes applies full force in social commentary.
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:09 PM
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His current political musings in God Delusion are juvenile. Have read debate transcripts and op eds by him, and reviews of it.

He makes a routine error of hard science folks: thinking the certitude of beakers, rocks, and enzymes applies full force in social commentary.

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Best read it yourself if you want to comment. Much comment on Dawkins is mere bile, much the same as the bile poured on Russell. Maybe it has as little justification.

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Old 11-30-2007, 12:57 AM
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Best read it yourself if you want to comment. Much comment on Dawkins is mere bile,

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Have I misheard his views?

*Religious belief is a mental pathology.
*Faith cripples thought. (In general, not just in musings about ultimates.)
*Theism is the major source of violence in the world.
*A society run strictly on rational atheism is the only true heaven.

(I know I'm about to get an avalanche of "those things are all true" comments. I disagree, but the the point I'm making here is that I do indeed get the proper gist of his position.)

Dawkins' foray into social commentary is way out of his league.

Even if you do not include Dawkins in it, the brand of militant atheism displayed on this board is dogmatic and unproductive.

I think Dawkins has a role to play in stiffening the spines of beleaguered atheists. But he's still a snot, and his political thinking is callow and unnuanced.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:01 AM
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Its not a matter of his views, though your snippits sound like nonsense. What matters is the force (or not) of his arguments.

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Old 11-30-2007, 01:08 AM
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your snippits sound like nonsense.

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Now I gotta ask if YOU have read the God Delusion.

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Its not a matter of his views.... What matters is the force (or not) of his arguments.

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I don't know what that means.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:09 AM
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Have I misheard his views?

*Religious belief is a mental pathology.
*Faith cripples thought. (In general, not just in musings about ultimates.)
*Theism is the major source of violence in the world.
*A society run strictly on rational atheism is the only true heaven.

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You have Dawkins confused with Nielso.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:44 AM
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In fact, many religionists do not believe their method is special, correct, or privileged in any way

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i can honestly say ive never met a single human being where this sentence holds true.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:58 AM
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I'd imagine you could find a decent number of atheists who are against abortion and embryonic stem cell research

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thats the great thing about imagination. it can spawn small deceptions like the one above, or larger ones like The One above.
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