Dennis Kucinich

[TheVegan]

<font color="purple">Dennis is by far the best semi-mainstream candidate to ever run for president. To me the other democratic candidates are lacking. Every position Dennis has I agree with. He NEVER voted for funding for the war. He won't take money from corporations. He is for NOT FOR PROFIT universal health care. He is the first true candidate running for president with integrity. How can you not love this guy? </font>

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How can you not love this guy?

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He is for NOT FOR PROFIT universal health care.

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So he's economically retarded. Why would we want him in any position of authority?

[TheVegan]

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How can you not love this guy?

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He is for NOT FOR PROFIT universal health care.

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So he's economically retarded. Why would we want him in any position of authority?

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<font color="purple">What's wrong with not for profit health care? </font>

[NeBlis]

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Dennis is by far the best semi-mainstream candidate to ever run for president.

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ROTFLMAO @ semi-mainstream

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To me the other democratic candidates are lacking.

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/AGREE but so is your guy

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He NEVER voted for funding for the war. He won't take money from corporations.

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big deal .. a peacenik w/ no good solutions doesn't cut it.

try . A Peace candidate w/ a real plan

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He is for NOT FOR PROFIT universal health care.

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AT WHAT COST ? how much GDP and true utility for the poor and "less-fortunate" are you willing to give so you feel good about yourself?

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He is the first true candidate running for president with integrity.

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BZZZZZT! I agree that he has integrity but My guy has integrity AND a workable solution

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How can you not love this guy?

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ummmm vegans and hippies like him is enough for me. But apart from that not wanting to live in a bankrupt socialist country.


Having said all that I applaud you for being a Liberal w/ a soul and not a win at all cost Hellery supporter.

[NeBlis]

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What's wrong with not for profit health care?

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just about everything why do you ask?

[canis582]

US has for profit healthcare and it costs us 7k per person.

In other industrialized nations with not for profit healthcare they pay 3k per person.

Vegan, the other posters in this thread are trolling because they have a very narrow worldview. You can see the problems DK causes based on the very childish responses you've elicted.

The media doesn't like dennis, and thats reason enough for me to have voted for him in the last primary.

At what cost, Nelblis? 400 billion in administration and profits to the healthcare industry that he would wipe out.

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<font color="purple">Dennis is by far the best semi-mainstream candidate to ever run for president. To me the other democratic candidates are lacking. Every position Dennis has I agree with. He NEVER voted for funding for the war. He won't take money from corporations. He is for NOT FOR PROFIT universal health care. He is the first true candidate running for president with integrity. How can you not love this guy? </font>

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I agree with a lot of his positions on the war / social issues but all his economic positions are totally broken.

He's for:
1. Socialized healthcare.
2. Federally socialized education.
3. Pulling out of the WTO and NAFTA for the wrong reasons - He's a protectionist which will *hurt* the US economy, not help it.
4. He thinks: "we can create millions of jobs and simultaneously improve our quality of life"
Newsflash: Government doesn't create [censored]. This way of "creating" jobs results in higher prices for the goods / services that those jobs create.
5. Full social security at age 65. Great, more theft, perverse incentives and bureaucracy - Washington was totally lacking those things.

Wow, he thinks that:
"People have a right to:

* Have a job.
* Have a safe workplace.
* Get decent wages and benefits.
* Organize and be represented.
* Grieve about working conditions.
* Strike.
* Get fair compensation for injuries on the job.
* Sue if injured by negligent employers.
* Have secure pension and retirement benefits.
* Participate in the political process."

Sorry, this guy is a total communist. He just is.

I have to give him his due, he does get some things right:
1. US out of Iraq (but probably into Darfur. Sigh.)
2. Repeal Patriot Act.
3. Right to choose, privacy, and civil rights sound good.

So he gets three things right and everything else wrong.

Incidentally, if you didn't already notice, you've entered Ron Paul country, pilgrim. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Kucinich and Paul actually get on pretty well just so long as they don't talk about economic policy. Hmmm, I wonder who would win a Kucinich - Paul streetfight?...

[NeBlis]

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US has for profit healthcare and it costs us 7k per person.

In other industrialized nations with not for profit health care they pay 3k per person.



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We also spend more on cars, houses, Barbie dolls, hookers &amp; blow and basically every other useless metric you can throw out there to compare out spending to other nations.

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Vegan, the other posters in this thread are trolling because they have a very narrow worldview. You can see the problems DK causes based on the very childish responses you've elicted.



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I'm not trolling. Like I said I can respect a DK voter and argue w/ them on the merits of their ideas instead of having to wade through the slime of amoral scum like Hillary or Edwards to deal w/ root issues.

IMO a DK supporter may be wrong but they are a least genuine and that is unique these days.

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At what cost, Nelblis? 400 billion in administration and profits to the healthcare industry that he would wipe out

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To be replaced by 900 billion in government costs and more plantation mentality and dependence by the people. sounds swell.

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At what cost, Nelblis? 400 billion in administration and profits to the healthcare industry that he would wipe out

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To be replaced by 900 billion in government costs and more plantation mentality and dependence by the people. sounds swell.

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No no no no, he's talking about free healthcare.

[canis582]

He talking about trimming the corporate fat.

Calling hilary and edwards amoral scum is trolling, am i right, Iron?