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Old 08-22-2007, 12:44 PM
BGnight BGnight is offline
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Default OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep

Villian is running 21/15. His post flop aggression was standard for a TAG. I've been pretty active.
So, how is the best way to play this postflop given stack sizes and being OOP? I didn't like b3betting cuz I don't think he's raising w/ air enough to get him to fold and it seems like higher variance this deep. So, I just went for the good ol c/raise semibluff hoping i was just trapping cbet $$
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

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MP ($143.10)
Button ($264.40)
Hero ($397.95)
BB ($373.90)
UTG ($254.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
3 folds</font>, Hero raises to $8</font>, BB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $16.

Flop: ($48) , , (2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB bets $38</font>, Hero raises to $112
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep

I dont know about preflop. In position, I want to see a flop. I would just dump it preflop after you got reraised.

I like the check raise on the flop. You have a solid image and I think if villain is any good he would have a hard time calling with anything less than 2 pair.
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep

Whats your plan for:

1) He pushes
2) He calls
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:51 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep

Meh, you can go a number of ways. Personally I think I like two barreling. c/r is wayyy awkward if he calls and you blank.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep

you have no FE
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep

I think preflop is very bad. Position is even more important when you're this deep, so fold after the 3bet.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep


yeah, probably not alot fe. I probably just c/c the flop and fold a missed turn.

oh, and fold pf. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep

PREFLOP: I'd much rather be in position but whatever.

POST FLOP:
Check-raise is pretty terrible because you'll almost be pricing yourself in if he pushes. And if you don't think that he's raising your flop lead with air very often than leading is so so much cheaper considering that he likely has a good hand since he 3-bet preflop.

I prefer bet/3-bet...stack sizes are pretty good for it. If he calls your flop bet, I'd probably lead the turn even if the turn is a blank. Online players hate losing 200bb stacks and often play xtra nitty.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep

I would never call here OOP. As played I would try to play it like a set, and on this board that would probably mean check/call on the flop, and my action would vary on different turns.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: OOP in 3bet pot. Sorta deep

I would probably lead flop and check/raise any turn because I think we get the max amount of money in from his weaker holdings and we can get a few better hands to fold (c/r flop is okay but you are in an awkward spot when he shoves)
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