2/4 turned TP in rr'ed pot. weeeeee.

schwza · #1 02-05-2007, 08:26 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($415.05)
Button ($577.65)
SB ($402)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button raises to $16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $56, Button calls $40.

Flop: ($114) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($114) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $88, Button calls $88.

River: ($290) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $433.65 (All-In), Hero folds.

it's 271 to me. villain is 24/19, pretty decent/aggro. he probably sees me the same. i was trying to crai on the flop, btw.

BobboFitos · #2 02-05-2007, 08:31 PM

i dont get the flop check..

i guess bc you folded you thought he was value pushing the river. looks like 88 or 77 or TT or nothing to me...

bennies · #3 02-05-2007, 08:38 PM

I can't put him on a hand on the river so I'd call.

BobboFitos · #4 02-05-2007, 08:40 PM

fwiw, with your flop check i dont even mind checking the turn. although if he bets, i would then shove. if it goes check check, id value bet a non diamond rag or a ten, and probably checkcall a 8. fold to another diamond and maybe some broadways. (obv not a jack tho, thats a money card.)

schwza · #5 02-05-2007, 08:43 PM

my thinking on the flop was that if he raised or called i wouldn't know what to do and would likely make a significant mistake. i guess in retrospect bet-call is not too bad.

villain can have 78s/T8s and i think he can also push KK/AA for value. i figured his only bluff hands are things like AdKx, and there aren't that many of those, and he has enough showdown value that he might check behind.

bennies · #6 02-05-2007, 08:52 PM

very few possible 78s, T8s hands left. (I count 3).

Moonshine · #7 02-05-2007, 09:05 PM

what? bet call flop? ew

if you check flop i would check turn, though i think i like calling better...

bobbo, why would you shove turn if he bets?

BobboFitos · #8 02-05-2007, 09:06 PM

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sometimes i havew the best hand, sometimes i have the best draw, sometimes both, but im OOP on the river and really wont know wtf to do on a ton of cards.. shoving just sorta puts the onus on him.

edit. btw. your hand is underrepped checking 2 streets in the rr pot, villain on the turn probably puts hero on a small pair or AK/AQ type whiff. when hero then c/r all in a huge % of his hand range looks like a overs+diamonds, there is alot of value to be made there (which wont be present for the river)

if I check call the turn its because i feel villain has a better hand alot (even though in practice this isnt true) so I would simply c/f unimproved.

Eagles · #9 02-05-2007, 09:07 PM

I fold the river

Moonshine · #10 02-05-2007, 09:08 PM

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bobbo, why would you shove turn if he bets?

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sometimes i havew the best hand, sometimes i have the best draw, sometimes both, but im OOP on the river and really wont know wtf to do on a ton of cards.. shoving just sorta puts the onus on him.

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yea, i forgot about the 9 in our hand...i kind of like this the more i think about it