utg with 99 or any mid pair for that matter, how do u play this?

[dud_ber]

PokerStars Game #10776627908: Tournament #54607135, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/07/05 - 02:00:00 (ET)
Table '54607135 13' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: DarkLady (10240 in chips)
Seat 2: dud_ber (18628 in chips)
Seat 3: the_toys (12490 in chips)
Seat 5: riverfeverAA (2331 in chips)
Seat 7: Poohsangel (3140 in chips)
Seat 8: dobehave (11868 in chips)
Seat 9: thesidedish (24130 in chips)
DarkLady: posts the ante 50
dud_ber: posts the ante 50
the_toys: posts the ante 50
riverfeverAA: posts the ante 50
Poohsangel: posts the ante 50
dobehave: posts the ante 50
thesidedish: posts the ante 50
thesidedish: posts small blind 400
DarkLady: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***

99
4 till the money also,

[hamnegger]

id limp in

[driverseati]

easy raise utg, who cares if it's 4 till the money, you're trying to maximize your expectation, not just make the money.

Edit: The reason I say raise is that the blinds and antes are valuable to your stack, I believe there's more value in raising than trying to play postflop against the blinds and any other limpers.

[dud_ber]

so really, ur saying that raising a wide range of hands here is profitable bc of the antes, I just think if u get played back in any way 99 has no value here so u might as well be bumping up 23o
However i guess u might be able to get people off of better hands on giving flops, but u can do that with any two

[Heyda]

Id raise, alot of people are going to fold their marginal hands so close to the money.. so youll mostly take down the pot right there.

[Soulman]

I'd just ship it in there. You have 13 BBs, I hate raise/folding with that stack and pushing is definitely +EV.

[Mingdu]

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I'd just ship it in there. You have 13 BBs, I hate raise/folding with that stack and pushing is definitely +EV.

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Pretty sure he has 23bb ... hard to read the way it got cut off

I'd raise 3bb, see where that gets me

[Soulman]

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I'd just ship it in there. You have 13 BBs, I hate raise/folding with that stack and pushing is definitely +EV.

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Pretty sure he has 23bb ... hard to read the way it got cut off

I'd raise 3bb, see where that gets me

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Bleh, you're right. Converter ftw.

[Pokerfarian]

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99 has no value here so u might as well be bumping up 23o

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This isn't true as there are stacks behind which are small enough such that your calling their push, and thus 99 has value

[bgruner]

Are you asking specifically about this hand or just in general? If you're asking about this hand....you're on the bubble, I like a raise here. The only hands that are going to war are those that are way ahead of you. In general I think the play is case specicfic. I will usually raise 75% and limp 25% of the time.