wcoop-19 thread

[gordo16]

anyone else playin? gl if you are.

[Elrazor]

not playing but keeping an eye on 2+2ers. gl all

[cmyr]

i registered by accident and i really want to quit and go play counterstrike.

[gordo16]

barry is so sick.

[cmyr]

i'm down to 1200, should be done shortly.



I think i've figured out where that huge overlay everyone talks about in PLO tournies comes from.


(hint: it might be me)

[iggymcfly]

Obv a super-user account from Zefa who saw that his king high was good and pushed. Unfortunately having never played PLO before, he didn't realize that he was a dog to a wrap + FD.

[cmyr]

phew all done.

[LearnedfromTV]

hey omaha dudes, i'm out already, a key hand is bugging me; confirm/deny that once the inbetween guy calls I have to call:

I have KQQ7 in BB (suited KQ but that suit doesn't matter). LP raiser, SB calls, I call.

Flop Q97 two clubs. Check to raiser who minbets (asdfasd), SB calls, I pot to $405. Both call, pot is $1500. Raiser has $1500 left at this point, I have $3k, SB covers me. Turn is offsuit 8. Check, check, preflop raiser pots it. i figure the minbet/call flop is consistent with JT, so I'm planning to fold getting only 2-1. In between guy thinks for a long time and calls.

I have one of my outs, I figure the second guy has something like a non-nut str8 with clubs (?), so there's 16 cards in our hands/the board and I have 7/8-ish outs out of 36, given a slightly more likely than average chance that their sidecards include a blocker or two, given the kind of hands that have JT/T6/65 in them. I need all nine outs clean for direct odds, but figure I get something from the second guy if the board pairs. Then again, if the second guy has another set, that sucks.

Also, as ugly as it seems to get no $ in on the flop w/ top set, stack sizes make me wonder if just calling the flop bet and potting a safe turn might be better. At least half the deck is bad on the turn. On the other hand, pot is the perfect size for when the turn does blank.

[Silent A]

Playing with Greenstein. People love him so much, they don't want his chips. In fact, they're all too eager to give him theirs:

First:

PokerStars Game #123211934534: Tournament #70000019, $500+$30 Omaha Pot Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/09/28 - 15:26:07 (ET)
Table '70000019' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: caterpillar (3200 in chips)
Seat 2: E-Daddie (3190 in chips)
Seat 3: Markush13 (4240 in chips)
Seat 4: barryg1 (9230 in chips)
Seat 5: Zefa (3280 in chips)
Seat 6: M.Yada (5654 in chips)
Seat 7: SilentA (2840 in chips)
Seat 8: scrubbyz (2440 in chips)
Seat 9: AaronC (2196 in chips)
Zefa: posts small blind 10
M.Yada: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SilentA [6c Qs 8c Jh]
SilentA : folds
scrubbyz: folds
AaronC: calls 20
caterpillar: folds
E-Daddie: calls 20
Markush13: calls 20
caterpillar is sitting out
barryg1: calls 20
Zefa: folds
M.Yada: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c 7s Td]
M.Yada: checks
AaronC: checks
E-Daddie: checks
Markush13: checks
barryg1: bets 100
M.Yada: calls 100
AaronC: folds
E-Daddie: folds
Markush13: folds
*** TURN *** [7c 7s Td] [Th]
M.Yada: checks
barryg1: bets 280
M.Yada: calls 280
*** RIVER *** [7c 7s Td Th] [5d]
M.Yada: checks
barryg1: bets 480
M.Yada: calls 480
*** SHOW DOWN ***
barryg1: shows [Tc 6s Ks 4h] (three of a kind, Tens)
M.Yada: shows [7d 6h Kh 7h] (four of a kind, Sevens)
M.Yada collected 1830 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1830 | Rake 0
Board [7c 7s Td Th 5d]
Seat 1: caterpillar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: E-Daddie folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Markush13 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: barryg1 (button) showed [Tc 6s Ks 4h] and lost with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 5: Zefa (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: M.Yada (big blind) showed [7d 6h Kh 7h] and won (1830) with four of a kind, Sevens
Seat 7: SilentA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: scrubbyz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: AaronC folded on the Flop

barryg1 said, "so much for value bettering"

Then:

PokerStars Game #12321408654: Tournament #70000019, $500+$30 Omaha Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/09/28 - 15:37:41 (ET)
Table '70000019' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: caterpillar (3125 in chips)
Seat 2: E-Daddie (2685 in chips)
Seat 3: Markush13 (3750 in chips)
Seat 4: barryg1 (9795 in chips)
Seat 5: Zefa (3175 in chips)
Seat 6: M.Yada (6674 in chips)
Seat 7: SilentA (3175 in chips)
Seat 8: scrubbyz (1885 in chips)
Seat 9: AaronC (2006 in chips)
SilentAcorns: posts small blind 15
scrubbyz: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SilentA [9h Ah 9d 3s]
AaronC: calls 30
caterpillar: folds
E-Daddie: calls 30
Markush13: calls 30
barryg1: calls 30
Zefa: calls 30
M.Yada: folds
SilentA : calls 15
scrubbyz: checks
*** FLOP *** [2s 6d Kh]
SilentA : checks
scrubbyz: checks
AaronC: checks
E-Daddie: bets 210
Markush13: folds
barryg1: raises 510 to 720
Zefa: folds
SilentA : folds
scrubbyz: folds
AaronC: folds
barryg1 said, "non televised events don't get 500"
E-Daddie: raises 1650 to 2370
barryg1: raises 1650 to 4020
E-Daddie: calls 285 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [2s 6d Kh] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [2s 6d Kh 4h] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
E-Daddie: shows [3d Kc Ad 7h] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
barryg1: shows [6s 4d Qs 6h] (four of a kind, Sixes)
barryg1 collected 5520 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5520 | Rake 0
Board [2s 6d Kh 4h 6c]
Seat 1: caterpillar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: E-Daddie showed [3d Kc Ad 7h] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 3: Markush13 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: barryg1 showed [6s 4d Qs 6h] and won (5520) with four of a kind, Sixes
Seat 5: Zefa folded on the Flop
Seat 6: M.Yada (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SilentA (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: scrubbyz (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: AaronC folded on the Flop

Followed by:

PokerStars Game #12321564743: Tournament #70000019, $500+$30 Omaha Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/09/28 - 15:46:54 (ET)
Table '70000019' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: caterpillar (3080 in chips)
Seat 2: MangosPapa (6368 in chips)
Seat 3: Markush13 (1070 in chips)
Seat 4: barryg1 (12825 in chips)
Seat 5: Zefa (1915 in chips)
Seat 6: M.Yada (6374 in chips)
Seat 7: SilentA (3325 in chips)
Seat 8: scrubbyz (7321 in chips)
Seat 9: Gobloc (3945 in chips)
M.Yada: posts small blind 15
SilentAcorns: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SilentA [9h 3h Qc Ks]
scrubbyz: folds
Gobloc: folds
caterpillar: folds
MangosPapa: folds
Markush13: folds
barryg1: calls 30
Zefa: raises 90 to 120
M.Yada: folds
SilentA : folds
barryg1: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [4s Ts 5h]
barryg1: checks
Zefa: bets 285
barryg1: raises 855 to 1140
Zefa: raises 655 to 1795 and is all-in
barryg1: calls 655
*** TURN *** [4s Ts 5h] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [4s Ts 5h Qs] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
barryg1: shows [Qh 8s 6h 7h] (a pair of Queens)
Zefa: shows [Kc 9c Jd Tc] (a pair of Tens)
barryg1 collected 3875 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3875 | Rake 0
Board [4s Ts 5h Qs 2s]
Seat 1: caterpillar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MangosPapa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Markush13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: barryg1 showed [Qh 8s 6h 7h] and won (3875) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Zefa (button) showed [Kc 9c Jd Tc] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 6: M.Yada (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: SilentA (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: scrubbyz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Gobloc folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Unfortunately, after so many NL donk plays, the table broke without giving me chance to double my chips.